Speeding ticket

[Draper]

Originally Posted by TommyGuk

Or you could have slowed down and waited and not over reacted to someone not as in as much of a hurry as you. Problems happen when people behind the wheel can't control their emotions. Lesson learnt I hope.

Slow drivers are just as dangerous as fast ones.

[Ian1973]

you'll be fine, they will reduce it easily. I wouldn't bother with an attorney.

I've had much worse. I used attorney's for them obviously.

But when I first got my M3, I was going to work and a black SUV in front of me wasn't even doing the speed limit, so I was right behind him, a school bus was coming at us and put their orange flashers on, not the reds. He proceeds to slam his brakes on well before the red lights came on. In other words, we both could have gotten past the bus. Well we proceed, we get to a passing zone, where I pass the SUV, but now I'm coming up on another vehicle that had pulled out of a side street right prior to the passing zone.
Well I have to pass that one also but I am running out of passing zone, I get by the person and am doing probably 80 in a 55 (don't know). I look back and see the SUV now has it's flashers on. It was an unmarked. lol

I am always respectful. I said to him I got angry because he stopped abruptly for the bus when he didn't have to. He responded, well if you weren't so close, I responded, well if you were doing the speed limit. lol

He gave me a ticket for passing in a no pass zone and a speeding ticket if I recall. I didn't get an attorney. Just showed up at court and plea bargained to a two pointer, which is nothing considering two tickets. They are interested in your money, not giving you points.

[boss2k]

Originally Posted by dreventador

This has been my first speeding ticket. Any reasoning as to why I didn't receive a fine, but instead was assigned a court date?

It'd be really nice if he ends up not showing up that day

That could be reason to worry because for normal speeding ticket court date is optional, read the ticket well and check if you are cited for reckless driving.


Not trying to scare u but happened with a friend and he was marked reckless driving and court date

[dreventador]

Originally Posted by boss2k

That could be reason to worry because for normal speeding ticket court date is optional, read the ticket well and check if you are cited for reckless driving.


Not trying to scare u but happened with a friend and he was marked reckless driving and court date

Nah, no reckless driving. Probably different in your state

[tcharged]

I don't understand the 'show up and plead guilty for a lesser charge or lesser fine'. All this means is that a conviction is on your record, whether you have 6 demerits or 2, and convictions are what insurance companies determine your rates at. You either fight it completely and hope you don't get a guilty plea or you are screwed, because a guilty plea will be jack your insurance if your insurance company pulls your drivers abstract. Lawyer up if you have a case.

[gatorfast]

If these damn slow pokes would just move over us M drivers would never have this problem!

[Ian1973]

Originally Posted by tcharged

I don't understand the 'show up and plead guilty for a lesser charge or lesser fine'. All this means is that a conviction is on your record, whether you have 6 demerits or 2, and convictions are what insurance companies determine your rates at. You either fight it completely and hope you don't get a guilty plea or you are screwed, because a guilty plea will be jack your insurance if your insurance company pulls your drivers abstract. Lawyer up if you have a case.

I have never seen with an attorney or without completely doing away with it. I have a few attorneys that are childhood friends also, that will do it for a bottle of scotch or free. They will never accept nothing as they don't get the fine.

What case does he have? He was speeding. It's a plea bargain and dollars to donuts an attorney will charge him 400 bucks and get it reduce to an 1201A, which is what they will give him if he just goes by himself.

I have also never had my insurance go up from tickets, reduced or not. And I have had triple digit speeding tickets(sportbike guy). 104 in a 40, 101 in a 55, 98 in a 55, to many 80 somethings in 55's. I'm not bragging, but I don't see why you would incur the cost of an attorney for a 78 in a 55, that is nothing.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by Ian1973

I have never seen with an attorney or without completely doing away with it. I have a few attorneys that are childhood friends also, that will do it for a bottle of scotch or free. They will never accept nothing as they don't get the fine.

What case does he have? He was speeding. It's a plea bargain and dollars to donuts an attorney will charge him 400 bucks and get it reduce to an 1201A, which is what they will give him if he just goes by himself.

I have also never had my insurance go up from tickets, reduced or not. And I have had triple digit speeding tickets(sportbike guy). 104 in a 40, 101 in a 55, 98 in a 55, to many 80 somethings in 55's. I'm not bragging, but I don't see why you would incur the cost of an attorney for a 78 in a 55, that is nothing.

You are fortunate with your insurance experience.

In FL a ticket attorney costs less than 100 bucks, they almost always eliminate points and they can sometimes get tickets dismissed outright. For less than 100 bucks, they are a no-brainer here, even if it's only to save your own time from going to court.

[///F80M3]

Originally Posted by dreventador

Of course, having an M these are common however today's was just ridiculous!

Some asshole not letting me pass resulted in this (also my fault). I switched 2 lanes to pass this idiot and out of slight rage I let my foot loose. The instant that I accelerated, I see the state trooper being that my car is roughly 500whp an 'instant' is all it takes to go well above the speed limit. I new I fucked up, I would have seen him if I didn't have this large SUV in front of me not allow me to pass earlier. I also would not have had to go WOT.

I was going 78 in a 55. I could not have been more respectful to the cop & he could not have been more respectful to me. Interestingly enough didn't even ask why I was going so fast or anything. Now I'm assigned a court day for this bullsht.

Curious as to where u got pulled over? GCP? Get yourself a radar!! You don't know how many times it saved me especially at night when state trooper is pulled over with his lights off.

[Ian1973]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

You are fortunate with your insurance experience.

In FL a ticket attorney costs less than 100 bucks, they almost always eliminate points and they can sometimes get tickets dismissed outright. For less than 100 bucks, they are a no-brainer here, even if it's only to save your own time from going to court.

You are lucky then. 100 bucks to do away with it, I would do it every time. The fines here are more than that. Attorney's usually get 300+ dollars an hour around here.

[dreventador]

Originally Posted by ///F80M3

Curious as to where u got pulled over? GCP? Get yourself a radar!! You don't know how many times it saved me especially at night when state trooper is pulled over with his lights off.

Once I got on the I-95 from the Hutchinson River Pkway N. I was approaching the New Rochelle exit on the I-95.

He was in a grassy patch on the left side. When I saw him, it was too late. I was only like 1000Feet from my exit & at first I thought I was off the hook because I changed slowly back to the right lane & he was just trailing behind in the middle lane. Once I signaled right to get off, he stopped me right on the exit ramp to New Rochelle where coincidentally, I was going to get E85 (Conoco in New Rochelle).

& Yes, a radar will definitely be on the way!

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by Ian1973

You are lucky then. 100 bucks to do away with it, I would do it every time. The fines here are more than that. Attorney's usually get 300+ dollars an hour around here.

Yep. I spent $350 earlier this year to avoid a $76 ticket in SC resulting in points being applied to my license in FL. (I was driving an Audi SUV - not even my M4.) Circumstances vary greatly by location.

[bimmer456]

If you hire an attorney, you need a cheap one to make it worth while, otherwise it might cost more than the ticket itself. Also make sure the attorney doesn't charge if he loses lol.

[Howard_R]

Some really bad advice here. Using an attorney is to keep it off your insurance. Any traffic lawyer will be able to keep it off your insurance. If you go it alone, they will drop the fine, but the infraction will be on your record. Insurance will go up at least $30 a month for 3 years - so figure around a $1000. And that's assuming you don't get any more tickets in the three year period. If you do, you can jack up your insurance another decent amount/month. I run a V1 with YaV1, and an ALP jammer, plus Waze. Even so, it's not a guarantee I won't get a ticket. I usually am about 20+ over on the freeway. Paying a lawyer is just a cost of doing business.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

I've gotten my case dismissed without paying any lawyers. No traffic school, no ticket to pay, no hiked insurance rates

You're giving CA advice to someone who got a ticket in NYC. completely different situation.

It's different in every jurisdiction

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

You're giving CA advice to someone who got a ticket in NYC. completely different situation.

It's different in every jurisdiction

There are differences and there are similarities if you read earlier I based it on similarities as described by the poster and others. I also made the disclaimer that there might be some differences/nuances in the earlier posts, though I didn't always reply to the post as there were other posts that were relavent

[SanchoDivine]

In TX you literally have to get 3 speeding tickets in a row within a couple months to actually get a ticket.

You can get the tickets dismissed by doing defensive driving (only allowed once per 12 months) or you can take a probation deal which can last anywhere from a couple months to 12 months with the usual being up to 6 months.

I was told to do it in this order:

For the first ticket you can do probation. If you dont get a ticket within the probation period, it is dismissed. If you get another ticket within the probation period, you can take defensive driving. both will get dismissed. If you dont have the option of defensive driving because you took that deal within the last 12 months, you end up with 2 tickets (the one you were on probation for and the one you just got). If you manage to do defensive driving to get the 2nd ticket dismissed and you then get a third while you are still within the probation period, you will end up with 2 tickets (the one you were on probation for and the third ticket that you just got). If you are past the probation, I think you can do probation again end up with no tickets. I think you can do probation as long as you are not on probation but maybe there is a cool-down period like the defensive driving has. I don't really know cause I made sure to drive like a granny if I ever end up with both of those options being off the table.

You still pay court fees which be around $100 (maybe up to $300?) but no tickets will show up on you insurance and if you took the defensive driving class, you can actually get a discount on your insurance!

Texas is awesome!

[dreventador]

Originally Posted by SanchoDivine

In TX you literally have to get 3 speeding tickets in a row within a couple months to actually get a ticket.

You can get the tickets dismissed by doing defensive driving (only allowed once per 12 months) or you can take a probation deal which can last anywhere from a couple months to 12 months with the usual being up to 6 months.

I was told to do it in this order:

For the first ticket you can do probation. If you dont get a ticket within the probation period, it is dismissed. If you get another ticket within the probation period, you can take defensive driving. both will get dismissed. If you dont have the option of defensive driving because you took that deal within the last 12 months, you end up with 2 tickets (the one you were on probation for and the one you just got). If you manage to do defensive driving to get the 2nd ticket dismissed and you then get a third while you are still within the probation period, you will end up with 2 tickets. If you are past the probation, I think you can do probation again end up with no tickets. I think you can do probation as long as you are not on probation but maybe there is a cool-down period like the defensive driving has. I don't really know cause I made sure to drive like a granny if I ever end up with both of those options being off the table.

You still pay court fees which be around $100 or so but no tickets will show up on you insurance and if you took the defensive driving class, you can actually get a discount on your insurance!

Texas is awesome!

Texas sounds like the place to have a fast car lol! From what I know, in some areas Texas has some of the highest speed limits in the U.S.

[SanchoDivine]

Originally Posted by dreventador

Texas sounds like the place to have a fast car lol! From what I know, in some areas Texas has some of the highest speed limits in the U.S.

Yes, a lot of our Interstate Highways are 75mph and some of them have speed limits of 85mph.

It's crazy that people still manage to get pulled over with these limits!

Also, we don't have any of that California tree hugging emissions testing crap!

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by SanchoDivine

Yes, a lot of our Interstate Highways are 75mph and some of them have speed limits of 85mph.

It's crazy that people still manage to get pulled over with these limits!

Also, we don't have any of that California tree hugging emissions testing crap!

Yeah they want to go all electric here apparently so all our cars will be silent. That will make it more dangerous.

[BMWM5NYC]

Also be aware of the $300 surcharge NY state adds to any violation that incurs points. That is ON TOP of the original fine. And if you get a conviction, your insurance company will find out because it is in NYS where we live. If it were an out of state fine like NJ or PA or CT I would just pay it because they have no reciprocity with NY state on NON DUI/DWI violations. Get it reduced to NO POINT ticket (IE Just a Fine) with a lawyer or by yourself. Easier with a lawyer. It is not the $$ you worry about, It is the Insurance Hit that you don't want.

[dreventador]

Originally Posted by BMWM5NYC

Also be aware of the $300 surcharge NY state adds to any violation that incurs points. That is ON TOP of the original fine. And if you get a conviction, your insurance company will find out because it is in NYS where we live. If it were an out of state fine like NJ or PA or CT I would just pay it because they have no reciprocity with NY state on NON DUI/DWI violations. Get it reduced to NO POINT ticket (IE Just a Fine) with a lawyer or by yourself. Easier with a lawyer. It is not the $$ you worry about, It is the Insurance Hit that you don't want.

Yeah I'll take a fine, I just don't want to deal with those points honestly.