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      12-11-2019, 08:15 AM   #4181
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This is what's wrong with the current Republican party. If you're a free thinker, you're a swamp rat. You've got to be ride or die for Trump.


Romney, Paul Ryan and co. Opposed Trump before he got elected bc they felt like he was going to wreck the economy, cause rising unemployment...
They were bought by China and wanted to keep the trade deficit going... Finally a President who's fighting for the American worker!

They were proven wrong and still hate the guy!

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Romney, Paul Ryan and co. Opposed Trump before he got elected bc they felt like he was going to wreck the economy, cause rising unemployment...
They were bought by China and wanted to keep the trade deficit going... Finally a President who's fighting for the American worker!

They were proven wrong and still hate the guy!

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And yet Romney was just elected in a landslide to the senate. Graham also ripped Trump before he won because he doesn't represent the party. That hasn't changed, but Graham's backbone sure did.

Nobody has really been proven wrong. The economy kept on a similar trajectory to the previous 6 years and is beginning to moderate further. I don't know if having to subsidize American farmers is a raging success. The Chinese are a formidable foe and they're in no rush to resolve this, while Trump absolutely must resolve it before November.
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Romney, Paul Ryan and co. Opposed Trump before he got elected bc they felt like he was going to wreck the economy, cause rising unemployment...
They were bought by China and wanted to keep the trade deficit going... Finally a President who's fighting for the American worker!

They were proven wrong and still hate the guy!

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And yet Romney was just elected in a landslide to the senate. Graham also ripped Trump before he won because he doesn't represent the party. That hasn't changed, but Graham's backbone sure did.
Russian intelligence is what changed about Graham. Trump has it, shared it with Graham. Pretty obvious really.
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Russian intelligence is what changed about Graham. Trump has it, shared it with Graham. Pretty obvious really.
Nothing about Trump involving Russia is intelligent.
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Nothing about Trump involving Russia is intelligent.
Quite the contrary. If there is one thing Trump is an expert at, it is definitely using compromising information against others.

At first I thought it was Pecker and the enquirer that was the source of the info but I believe that is just a screen for the actual source of info which is Russian intelligence.

When you look at his actions and those of the people around him everything makes perfect sense.
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... So even if Trump is aquitted, Trump will (most probably) have to face a centrist democratic candidate. I give Trump only a 20% to beat any of those 3....
Really? Have you seen the number of people who attend Trump's rallies. But go ahead and believe your propaganda media outlets. They got it wrong in 2016 and will get it wrong again.

When I get a call asking me who I'm voting for, I always say I'm supporting a Socialist Democrat. However I intend to vote for Trump again. I know many other people who do the same thing. So go ahead and believe that Trump only has a 20% change to win. You're going to crying again on election night 2020.
Sure. Vote for Trump. Believe the alt right propaganda. Enjoy your nationalist rallies.
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Sure. Vote for Trump. Believe the alt right propaganda. Enjoy your nationalist rallies.
Are you saying it's bad to be a nationalist?

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Being a nationalist, and the term nationalism doesn't exactly have a positive connotation these days. I think theres a difference between admiring ones country, and being proud (but also recognizing the faults) and being a nationalist. The latter in my opinion seems to ignore the faults and only focus on the superiority aspect. Again, just my opinion and impression of things.
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Being a nationalist, and the term nationalism doesn't exactly have a positive connotation these days. I think theres a difference between admiring ones country, and being proud (but also recognizing the faults) and being a nationalist. The latter in my opinion seems to ignore the faults and only focus on the superiority aspect. Again, just my opinion and impression of things.
I don't personally give a shit what has a "positive connotation" - that is completely subjective and varies from one person to another.

Saying "a biological male (XY) cannot give birth to children" is a factual scientific statement, but will be considered to have a negative connotation by some of those who are extremely radical in gender views.

A nationalist has pride in their country and believes it to be superior to all other countries. What is wrong with that?

I think the USA is superior to all other countries in many aspects - but not all. I think some countries do it better when it comes to work life balance and a few other metrics - but when taken as a whole - I would say America is better to live in than anywhere else in the world.

Does that make me a nationalist?
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Big Ears Socialist Kenyan and crooked Hillary were behind the illegal spying on a political opponent
That's not what Mr. Horowitz says. In an exhaustive report backed up by substantiated facts.
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I don't personally give a shit what has a "positive connotation" - that is completely subjective and varies from one person to another.

Saying "a biological male (XY) cannot give birth to children" is a factual scientific statement, but will be considered to have a negative connotation by some of those who are extremely radical in gender views.

A nationalist has pride in their country and believes it to be superior to all other countries. What is wrong with that?

I think the USA is superior to all other countries in many aspects - but not all. I think some countries do it better when it comes to work life balance and a few other metrics - but when taken as a whole - I would say America is better to live in than anywhere else in the world.

Does that make me a nationalist?
Maybe Natty Light.
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That's not what Mr. Horowitz says. In an exhaustive report backed up by substantiated facts.
I think all rational folks can agree that the report noted several specific points:

1) The FBI did not violate the law in the investigation
2) The FBI did push the absolute limits of the law when performing the investigation
3) The FBI violated many internal rules and guidelines during the investigation that did not reach the level of breaking the law
4) The investigation was justified initially and then took on a life of its own and probably went too far - but was not illegal
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I don't personally give a shit what has a "positive connotation" - that is completely subjective and varies from one person to another.

Saying "a biological male (XY) cannot give birth to children" is a factual scientific statement, but will be considered to have a negative connotation by some of those who are extremely radical in gender views.

A nationalist has pride in their country and believes it to be superior to all other countries. What is wrong with that?

I think the USA is superior to all other countries in many aspects - but not all. I think some countries do it better when it comes to work life balance and a few other metrics - but when taken as a whole - I would say America is better to live in than anywhere else in the world.

Does that make me a nationalist?
na·tion·al·ism
/ˈnaSH(ə)nəˌlizəm/
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identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
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I think all rational folks can agree that the report noted several specific points:

1) The FBI did not violate the law in the investigation
2) The FBI did push the absolute limits of the law when performing the investigation
3) The FBI violated many internal rules and guidelines during the investigation that did not reach the level of breaking the law
4) The investigation was justified initially and then took on a life of its own and probably went too far - but was not illegal
Agreed, except maybe for 4, which of course will be colored by each individuals political views unfortunately.
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I don't personally give a shit what has a "positive connotation" - that is completely subjective and varies from one person to another.

Saying "a biological male (XY) cannot give birth to children" is a factual scientific statement, but will be considered to have a negative connotation by some of those who are extremely radical in gender views.

A nationalist has pride in their country and believes it to be superior to all other countries. What is wrong with that?

I think the USA is superior to all other countries in many aspects - but not all. I think some countries do it better when it comes to work life balance and a few other metrics - but when taken as a whole - I would say America is better to live in than anywhere else in the world.

Does that make me a nationalist?
I don't think so. I think it makes you proud of your country, but not quite tipping into nationalism
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Really? Have you seen the number of people who attend Trump's rallies. But go ahead and believe your propaganda media outlets. They got it wrong in 2016 and will get it wrong again.

When I get a call asking me who I'm voting for, I always say I'm supporting a Socialist Democrat. However I intend to vote for Trump again. I know many other people who do the same thing. So go ahead and believe that Trump only has a 20% change to win. You're going to crying again on election night 2020.
Why?

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LOL. Free thinkers outside the Democrat plantation is EXACTLY what got Donald Trump elected president.

The Democrat Party is intolerant of anyone who can rationalize there are only two genders, astrophysical forces (including plate techtonics) control the Earth's climate, aborting a pregnancy in the womb of a human female kills a human baby, and Government doesn't solve all problems. Such a free thinker is banned from participating in the Democrat Party, despite Sister Pelosi's devout Catholic faith that she believes she "doesn't hate anyone".

Give us a break.
Well you got a couple of those right anyway.
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Trump is toast if enough GOP voters simply refuse to cast a vote.
Every where he goes the venues he speaks at are not large enough. He spoke in my area (Hershey @Giant Center) unbelievable enthusiasm and packed. People standing around in the rain outside. Unbelievable. Trump won PA...first Republican since 1988 (34 years!!!) His chances of winning PA are about the same as getting acquitted in the Senate (100%) He brings enthusiasm to Repubs way more than Reagan.

You have no idea what is going on my friend!!
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Trump is toast if enough GOP voters simply refuse to cast a vote.
Every where he goes the venues he speaks at are not large enough. He spoke in my area (Hershey @Giant Center) unbelievable enthusiasm and packed. People standing around in the rain outside. Unbelievable. Trump won PA...first Republican since 1988 (34 years!!!) His chances of winning PA are about the same as getting acquitted in the Senate (100%) He brings enthusiasm to Repubs way more than Reagan.

You have no idea what is going on my friend!!
Reading comprehension: I said "IF"

There are Trump voters who might care or not.
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I think all rational folks can agree that the report noted several specific points:

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3) The FBI violated many internal rules and guidelines during the investigation that did not reach the level of breaking the law
4) The investigation was justified initially and then took on a life of its own and probably went too far - but was not illegal
Could have just saved some space and typed "It was legal."

Do those same rational folks see the many instances of obstruction of justice noted in the Mueller report? Those same rational folks seem to be turning a blind eye to a pretty blatant and nefarious scheme with regard to Ukraine.
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And yet Romney was just elected in a landslide to the senate. Graham also ripped Trump before he won because he doesn't represent the party. That hasn't changed, but Graham's backbone sure did.

Nobody has really been proven wrong. The economy kept on a similar trajectory to the previous 6 years and is beginning to moderate further. I don't know if having to subsidize American farmers is a raging success. The Chinese are a formidable foe and they're in no rush to resolve this, while Trump absolutely must resolve it before November.
Sorry but no and a 200% no.
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