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      12-11-2013, 10:42 PM   #133
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Lots of great information, thanks for this comprehensive compilation. I am not jumping to conclusions just yet and still madly in love with my E92. All I can safely say is that I am rather pleased with what I see here and I think the next few years are going to be rather exciting in this segment. BMW has made the first move with this new M3/M4. Interesting to see what Merc and Audi do with the AMG and RS models respectively. Once all these models are out in the market, shopping for a new car is going to be awesome so needless to say I am very much looking forward to that and in the meantime enjoying my NA V8 engine....sweet as a nut she is.

Oh and somebody else said it a few pages ago...the M3 looks a bit like a baby M5 and its really gorgeous, well they both are.
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      12-11-2013, 10:43 PM   #134
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You and me both.
That makes three of us!!!
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      12-11-2013, 10:46 PM   #135
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They definitely look nice, both the M3 and M4.

The logos on the seats are cheesy though.
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      12-11-2013, 10:47 PM   #136
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True, and I've been flip flopping between photos, but when I look at YMB, I can't help but think "Yeah, that's my car!".

This just speaks to me on so many levels...

I think in indirect sunlight, I like it more.
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      12-11-2013, 10:47 PM   #137
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True, and I've been flip flopping between photos, but when I look at YMB, I can't help but think "Yeah, that's my car!".

This just speaks to me on so many levels...

Coming from a laguna seca blue e46 owner, this is the closest to LSB there will be off the bat without having to go through BMW individual and slap down another 5K or so. That is reason enough!
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      12-11-2013, 10:49 PM   #138
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Methinks this will have its hands full with the ATS-V.....
Congratulations! Best laugh on this whole thread! We need more Caddy fanboys!
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      12-11-2013, 10:53 PM   #139
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Nice work Jason & team! Such an awesome post w/ SO MUCH INFO! Ahhh, the launchfilm is epic.
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Tasty, 80 kilos lighter, that's a person.
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Congratulations! Best laugh on this whole thread! We need more Caddy fanboys!
I think the ATS-V will be the only real competition for this car, not sure what you find so funny(Lexus will have an NA V8, but I bet there will be no 3 pedal offering so rule it out-ugly too-but that is an opinion). The 420hp V6 in the CTS VSport has been shown to be underrated and will likely be the engine used in the ATS.

The ATS already has slightly better handling and steering than the F30 which the M3 is based on, many find it to be the spiritual successor to the E46.

So smaller size, weight in check, 420hp Twin Turbo plus a manual trans, I dunno-the Caddy sounds like a smart car to cross shop. I also bet it will undercut the starting price of the M3 by $2500-5k too.
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      12-11-2013, 10:55 PM   #142
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Special blue color combo with black rims. Request from u/Rated R.
I'd be pleased with that combo, thanks...
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      12-11-2013, 10:57 PM   #143
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Hate the chrome kidney grille and the side vent. Should've been an option for Black but I guess they must save a few things for the BMW Parts Dept to sell...
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      12-11-2013, 10:59 PM   #144
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Any unedited videos of them going around the track? I want to hear the real exhaust sound. Wish that stupid music wasn't in the first two videos.
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      12-11-2013, 11:02 PM   #145
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I'd be pleased with that combo, thanks...
YES PLEASE! Very sexy indeed.
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I think the ATS-V will be the only real competition for this car, not sure what you find so funny(Lexus will have an NA V8, but I bet there will be no 3 pedal offering so rule it out-ugly too-but that is an opinion). The 420hp V6 in the CTS VSport has been shown to be underrated and will likely be the engine used in the ATS.

The ATS already has slightly better handling and steering than the F30 which the M3 is based on, many find it to be the spiritual successor to the E46.

So smaller size, weight in check, 420hp Twin Turbo plus a manual trans, I dunno-the Caddy sounds like a smart car to cross shop. I also bet it will undercut the starting price of the M3 by $2500-5k too.
Don't discount the C63 AMG because it doesn't have 3 pedals. Keep in mind that the take rate for manual is still low compared to people who opt for an auto. All I know is, we have stiff competition heading our way:

MB C63 AMG (new model coming soon)
Caddy ATS-V (new model coming soon)
Lexus RC-F (new model coming soon)
Audi RS5
And why not... Mustang GT/Boss 302 (new model coming soon)
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      12-11-2013, 11:10 PM   #147
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      12-11-2013, 11:15 PM   #148
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If a fart box gets me around the track faster than you......I'll take one!
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Don't discount the C63 AMG because it doesn't have 3 pedals. Keep in mind that the take rate for manual is still low compared to people who opt for an auto. All I know is, we have stiff competition heading our way:

MB C63 AMG (new model coming soon)
Caddy ATS-V (new model coming soon)
Lexus RC-F (new model coming soon)
Audi RS5
And why not... Mustang GT/Boss 302 (new model coming soon)
It is purely emotional, not logic based. If I am going to shell out that kind of money for a car, it's going to have 3 pedals.
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I don't get why BMW doesn't put bigger brake pedals in cars equipped with auto transmissions. I left-foot brake whenever I drive cars with only two pedals, so a bigger brake pedal would certainly help.

And honestly I can’t believe they’ve been using the same OEM rubber pedals for more than 20 years. For M cars, you’d think they’d be offering some nice-looking drilled aluminum pedals as standard by now…
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Why the difference in reported figures: 431 vs 425. Which is it? Not that it matters when it does 0-60 in 3.9 holy cow...very happy with these numbers!
431 is PS (Pferdestärke) German horsepower measurement. The 425hp is the U.S. Measurement.
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      12-11-2013, 11:24 PM   #153
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So many things to say....but first:

My e39 m5 is now for sale. I may drive it for the next 6-7 months, but it's for sale. I sold my winter wheels/tires today, I've got a bunch of other stuff to sell off, but at this point the e39 m5 is just a prelude to this.
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Hopefully, there won't be any engine issues that make it a ticking time-bomb like the last two motors....
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