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      10-06-2020, 02:36 AM   #221
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Gotta love how they've "cleaned up" the "First G80 M3 vs F80 M3 side by side comparison photos" thread by deleting all original negative comments, including mine (which also had a praise in it!). OP posts a thread, they delete shit and share it on the main page so that other members and lurkers can see how much Bimmerpost allegedly love the G80.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1763657
Interesting. Reminds me of other groups and parties that suppress contrasting opinions in order to manipulate the popular vote!

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Gotta love how they've "cleaned up" the "First G80 M3 vs F80 M3 side by side comparison photos" thread by deleting all original negative comments, including mine (which also had a praise in it!). OP posts a thread, they delete shit and share it on the main page so that other members and lurkers can see how much Bimmerpost allegedly love the G80.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1763657
Interesting. Reminds me of other groups and parties that suppress contrasting opinions in order to manipulate the popular vote!

Hmmmmm
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My Grille Theory of the Day (GTOTD™)

In Frank Stephenson's 4-series design review vid above he said the grille's design lines completely mismatch the rest of the design - and "look like it came from a different car" ... then he said, "I'm not even sure BMW designed this..."

Given he worked with the BMW design team for more than a decade, that seems like a big statement ...


My GTOTD is the grille design came from Brilliance Auto Group's design team.

If you don't know, BAG is BMW's Chinese two-plant partner in Shenyang that owns 50% of BMW Brilliance which sell BMWs in mainland China - My guess is a deal was cut with them: put this grille into the design and we'll commit to selling X# of cars ... which is more/less how BMW got started in the US and why Max Hoffman's family still gets a cut of every BMW sold in the US.

Further BMW has messed up the execution - the BMW design team couldn't figure out how to incorporate the grille (and maybe after negotiating down to that and some other elements!) thus the resulting car looks like the mashup it is.

Finally, BMW is willing to take this risk because even if they lose a lot of western sales, the Brilliance deal will cement the brand's presence in China with the 4-series already being a contracted sales success via Brilliance.
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I'm gonna have to start using that.
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Bimmerpost should be ashamed for banning members from posting their opinion. Did they cave to BMW corporate who probably knows by now their nee design is not a hit with many?

So typical of today's society, though I never thought it would makes its way here. Those who banned people should be embarrassed and ashamed. FWIW I could care less if I'm banned from this site after these actions. What a joke of a site to censor feedback.

I would understand obvious trolling but people giving opinions are getting banned? Pathetic Bimmerpost.
After seeing this thread I went to the G80 forum a couple of weeks ago and posted in a thread that Jason started trying to justify the banning. I stated that I was opposed to censorship and banning what were essentially members of a larger family. I wasn't banned but my post was deleted. That thread has now been closed to further comments, after most of the negative posts were deleted.

The G80/G82 has left me far less enthused with BMW. I didn't even bother to read their press release about the new cars. If BMW has any hand in the censorship going on in the G80 forum then I have even less respect for BMW.
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      10-06-2020, 05:33 PM   #226
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I think I'm done here...

The G8x is horrible. Thats not a problem because people are allowed to have opinions on cars. I kinda of thought that's what this place was. Its clear to me the new M3 was designed to go after the chinese market. It was literally the first thing that crossed my mind when i saw it. Im honestly surprised they didn't make the BMW roundel 4x bigger.

I could be wrong, but I'm certainly allowed to have that opinion, and the opinion it's hideous. Its not the only BMW thats been hideous and almost unanimously agreed on. So whats different now? Closing the political section was one thing, but suppressing the opinions on cars is entirely different. This isnt for me anymore. Only good thing left frankly is the thread in off topic with hot girl photos.


used to love this forum, now it just feels like it's sucked into the political "lets cancel to make sure no one gets offended" culture, or worse lets control the narrative to try and sell more cars.
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used to love this forum, now it just feels like it's sucked into the political "lets cancel to make sure no one gets offended" culture, or worse lets control the narrative to try and sell more cars.
This is the perplexing part - it's so easy to create a new thread in the G8x forum for design discussion and moderate it to ensure it doesn't turn into flinging-poop fest - if moderator time is a problem ...

I hereby volunteer to moderate such a G8x design thread and not be a biased asshole! (anymore)
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My Grille Theory of the Day (GTOTD™)

In Frank Stephenson's 4-series design review vid above he said the grille's design lines completely mismatch the rest of the design - and "look like it came from a different car" ... then he said, "I'm not even sure BMW designed this..."

Given he worked with the BMW design team for more than a decade, that seems like a big statement ...


My GTOTD is the grille design came from Brilliance Auto Group's design team.

If you don't know, BAG is BMW's Chinese two-plant partner in Shenyang that owns 50% of BMW Brilliance which sell BMWs in mainland China - My guess is a deal was cut with them: put this grille into the design and we'll commit to selling X# of cars ... which is more/less how BMW got started in the US and why Max Hoffman's family still gets a cut of every BMW sold in the US.

Further BMW has messed up the execution - the BMW design team couldn't figure out how to incorporate the grille (and maybe after negotiating down to that and some other elements!) thus the resulting car looks like the mashup it is.

Finally, BMW is willing to take this risk because even if they lose a lot of western sales, the Brilliance deal will cement the brand's presence in China with the 4-series already being a contracted sales success via Brilliance.
Let China have the new Bucktoothed G series..

While we move on to something else..

Chinese can buy anything and anyone including BMW, media outlets, & W.H.O. for their propaganda.
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Wow how did I miss this thread. Feel like I was one of the first ones banned.

Mods are just nerds behind computer screens. So am I
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bmw lost it's way anyway, fuck the new M. Buy an m5 instead if you want a car thats 4000lbs. LOL

c8z06 looking real good, and i haven't even seen it yet.
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Bimmerpost should be ashamed for banning members from posting their opinion. Did they cave to BMW corporate who probably knows by now their nee design is not a hit with many?

So typical of today's society, though I never thought it would makes its way here. Those who banned people should be embarrassed and ashamed. FWIW I could care less if I'm banned from this site after these actions. What a joke of a site to censor feedback.

I would understand obvious trolling but people giving opinions are getting banned? Pathetic Bimmerpost.
After seeing this thread I went to the G80 forum a couple of weeks ago and posted in a thread that Jason started trying to justify the banning. I stated that I was opposed to censorship and banning what were essentially members of a larger family. I wasn't banned but my post was deleted. That thread has now been closed to further comments, after most of the negative posts were deleted.

The G80/G82 has left me far less enthused with BMW. I didn't even bother to read their press release about the new cars. If BMW has any hand in the censorship going on in the G80 forum then I have even less respect for BMW.
Which thread is this? I'd like to read
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Sent to Mod. IDC. If this is my last post, thank you all for the help and good luck to all in the future.
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Sent to Mod. IDC. If this is my last post, thank you all for the help and good luck to all in the future.
I sent something similar.

I never got a response. Basically I said I was very unhappy for being banned with no warning or explanation as someone who has been here for 12 years.

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I do believe it's permanent. Not only did I get banned, I got points as well. The points expired but the ban has not.
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Permanent and with no notification. One day I just clicked on the G8X icon and it said access unavailable.
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Permanent and with no notification. One day I just clicked on the G8X icon and it said access unavailable.
That's pretty harsh, being that even if your opinion changes and you purchase a G82 in the future, you still can't participate in that forum..

They should implement an appeal process when the dust settles, on the new model.. Just saying..
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Permanent and with no notification. One day I just clicked on the G8X icon and it said access unavailable.
That's pretty harsh, being that even if your opinion changes and you purchase a G82 in the future, you still can't participate in that forum..

They should implement an appeal process when the dust settles, on the new model.. Just saying..
Agree. I had to message Jason for access after the first ban. The second ban however in my opinion was just out of nowhere, I had no comments that could have caused a ban. I didn't speak about the grill, I tried to be nice when giving my criticisms and gave examples of why I didn't like certain aspects, and even complimented the car when I could but I must have pissed off someone because I didn't love the car. Never would have thought cancel culture would have made its way to Bimmerpost
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Permanent and with no notification. One day I just clicked on the G8X icon and it said access unavailable.
That's pretty harsh, being that even if your opinion changes and you purchase a G82 in the future, you still can't participate in that forum..

They should implement an appeal process when the dust settles, on the new model.. Just saying..
Agree. I had to message Jason for access after the first ban. The second ban however in my opinion was just out of nowhere, I had no comments that could have caused a ban. I didn't speak about the grill, I tried to be nice when giving my criticisms and gave examples of why I didn't like certain aspects, and even complimented the car when I could but I must have pissed off someone because I didn't love the car. Never would have thought cancel culture would have made its way to Bimmerpost
Cancel culture is real. I think this proves it. Also I'm really astonished Bimmerpost is caving in my opinion to pressure from BMW to get positive reviews for their car. It could be wrong but it doesn't make sense. People bashed the F80 as well
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Out of curiosity.

Get banned, ok sure.

But y'all that got banned, do you really want to go back there again?



It's nothing but ^^^^^^ over there

Do some of you really think this car will "grow" on you and you'll want to get into that forum?
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Out of curiosity.

Get banned, ok sure.

But y'all that got banned, do you really want to go back there again?



It's nothing but ^^^^^^ over there

Do some of you really think this car will "grow" on you and you'll want to get into that forum?
Here's the thing, for better or worse, the G8x is part of the BMW culture now. One of the reasons I got into BMWs was because of the culture. Between talking to guys between laps, car meets, etc.

Now I'm being told I'm no longer welcome in the future BMW culture. That royally pisses me off. Who are they to decide who gets to belong and who doesn't.
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