01-14-2016, 03:14 PM | #243 | |
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Cool your jets there tiger. The "M Sport Exhaust" in this package is NOT the same as the titanium M Performance Exhaust.
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01-14-2016, 03:22 PM | #246 | |
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Like this is 100%, not cp is 95%. Like these seatbelts, nice little touch.
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01-14-2016, 03:28 PM | #247 |
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While I have no doubt ZCP cars will be way more desirable new and used I don't expect a significant hit on used car prices of non ZCP cars. BMW pretty much insulated us with the no longer cool kid cars by charging $5500 for ZCP. If it would have been $2k or lower it would be another story. Just as most 328 buyers likely rather have a 335 but the price difference attracts a different buyer pool.
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01-14-2016, 03:51 PM | #248 | ||
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For instance F1 still has 13" wheels and tiny diameter brake discs. |
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01-14-2016, 03:54 PM | #249 |
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This is also a good point and that the F1 car weighs less than half of an M3 is helpful for them as well. In the end flaming BMW for putting modern size brakes and wheels on a Hot rodded 3-series when every sports car manufacturer do the same is kind of silly.
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Yeah but then BMW couldn't charge you 5K for the privilege.
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To those questioning whether the Competition Package changes the official weight figures of the M3 and M4....they do. The Competition Package is HEAVIER.
All figures with manual gearbox: M3 1,595kg 1,610kg (Competition Package) M4 1,572kg 1,590kg (Competition Package) Click on the PDF at the bottom of the page. Source: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...tem=node__7309 |
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01-14-2016, 05:16 PM | #254 | |
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Because the MPE is titanium and if it actually was the MPE then the package would be a whole lot more than it is in cost terms! Also, the M5 Competition Package sets a precedent. |
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01-14-2016, 05:59 PM | #257 | |
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I would say once pricing for the next model year is announced (2017 models) we may finally see the color palette get some changes. The E9x began selling with mineral white as a new addition, and new leather two tone configurations when ZCP started selling. So don't lose hope. |
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01-14-2016, 06:05 PM | #258 |
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Oh gawd, the wheels
If only they can knock off some money, take back their wheels and give us the E92 style 359 wheels.
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01-14-2016, 06:09 PM | #259 | |
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i don't think that calling it "emotional" is a wise choice of words either.
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01-14-2016, 06:41 PM | #260 |
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Has anyone built an M4 for over USD 100k? I tried on the BMW USA BYO site and a pretty much fully optioned M4 - accounting for the Comp Pkg and a $5k upcharge for Individual paint but not including an interior leather option - came out to $100,545! Unreal...
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But when you are talking about a track focused performance car that is also street legal (like a GT3 RS, M4 GTS, GT350R, Z28, various Ferraris, McLarens, etc.), if they could improve track performance (especially ring times) by running the smaller wheel then at least some of them would do just that because track times are what gives you bragging rights over the competition and helps sell the car. However, since these are street legal cars, they are largely limited by the type of tire they can use. A racing slick is a much thicker, much more rigid tire so it can get away with a taller side wall and not end up a squishy mess when a huge side load is applied during cornering. But with a DOT legal tire, to get better track performance you have to shorten the side wall. So larger wheels on track focused cars aren't necessarily just for aesthetics. But the aftermarket trend of larger wheels is, yes. Because we know very well that anything that makes a car look more like a car that was actually built with performance in mind can be sold as a performance enhancement even when it might not be. Sure, but even if you look at what people use when they track their M3/M4 (or any other enthusiast car, or track rat for that matter) they aren't putting on huge brake kits and then installing larger wheels as necessary. They are running lightweight 18" wheels or whatever the smallest size is that will clear the factory brakes or a comparable aftermarket brake kit. |
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01-14-2016, 06:51 PM | #262 | |
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I am hoping this package includes a larger front anti-roll bar that can be used on the standard F8X. Does anyone know what size it is?
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01-14-2016, 07:01 PM | #263 | |
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The CP cars have items that are included that are considered "optional" on the standard M4, such as the EDC for instance. That could explain the slight 15/18kg increases.
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