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      08-30-2020, 01:37 PM   #45
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What I don't understand is why in some DIY they change the small chip and in others the big one ... other users change the 2 ...What is the good option to do it?
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      08-31-2020, 07:06 AM   #46
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My question is? Why would you try to copy this guy work and not experiment yourself... He probably spent hours figuring this out and sourcing parts so it would work every time.
Easy to copycat others work after it is done with research and development. The reason why he can only charge $150 for the work and parts. I find it incredibly cheap for the actual cost of having BMW order a new FOB for you and you will never get that one from them.
I am not trying to make a case here just my opinion.
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      08-31-2020, 02:57 PM   #47
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Not sure if folks are aware, there has been interest in doing this since late 2016 and up until Gates Innovations entered the picture, there has not been a cost effective solution. Some members paid up to $400 and sent their keys overseas to get this done. Not exactly a great deal or quick and easy.

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1331334

If someone has all the specialized tools and know how, then good for them, it seems to be a DIY. But for the rest of us, $150 is a steal for a huge time and tool investment for a very appealing upgrade to what I would consider, a poor design by BMW. I honestly can't believe the Roll Royces used the same key design. It's so chunky and unappealing to the eyes.
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      08-31-2020, 04:30 PM   #48
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Got my key in the mail today. Very happy with it.
So far works flawlessly.
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      08-31-2020, 04:41 PM   #49
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My question is? Why would you try to copy this guy work and not experiment yourself... He probably spent hours figuring this out and sourcing parts so it would work every time.
Easy to copycat others work after it is done with research and development. The reason why he can only charge $150 for the work and parts. I find it incredibly cheap for the actual cost of having BMW order a new FOB for you and you will never get that one from them.
I am not trying to make a case here just my opinion.
I don't think gates is the one who poured the hours into researching what exactly had to be done, or the trial and error on which replica fobs are better than others. That's the spirit of the forum - to share your DIY with others.

On the flip side $150 is a small price to pay if you have no soldering skills and don't care to learn.
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My question is? Why would you try to copy this guy work and not experiment yourself... He probably spent hours figuring this out and sourcing parts so it would work every time.
Easy to copycat others work after it is done with research and development. The reason why he can only charge $150 for the work and parts. I find it incredibly cheap for the actual cost of having BMW order a new FOB for you and you will never get that one from them.
I am not trying to make a case here just my opinion.
I don't think gates is the one who poured the hours into researching what exactly had to be done, or the trial and error on which replica fobs are better than others. That's the spirit of the forum - to share your DIY with others.

On the flip side $150 is a small price to pay if you have no soldering skills and don't care to learn.
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      09-09-2020, 06:45 AM   #51
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      09-09-2020, 07:17 PM   #52
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What a beautiful thing just landed.
that made me pull the trigger. ordered and shipped it out today
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      09-15-2020, 10:03 PM   #53
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I just recieved it a few days ago and it was amazing, better than OEM quality of the f82 key. 10x better. My oem m4 key is cheap Honda quality vs this new one.
What is bad quality, the original BMW bigger key fob? I never thought it was bad quality, just big.

FYI here's some trivia for you all. According to my BMW dealer, the older key fob is nicknamed "the nugget" and the newer fob is called "the sabretooth" since that's what they resemble.
If you hold this new one, the old one feels like a potato.
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      09-15-2020, 10:12 PM   #54
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I'm just worried about the longevity and reliability of these possibly replica fobs. Last thing I want to be is stranded in the middle of no where if my key don't work.
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I'm just worried about the longevity and reliability of these possibly replica fobs. Last thing I want to be is stranded in the middle of no where if my key don't work.
I worry about getting run over by a truck everytime I go outside but what you gonna do? Honestly if you have a problem, George is a reputable seller. I had an issue with my locksmith screwing up the blade and then dropping the blade and leaving a ding. I reached out to George and he took care of me. Trust me that this is better than shipping it to China like some of the early guys did to get this done. It was also $400! So for $150 this is a steal.
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      10-13-2020, 10:13 PM   #56
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I worry about getting run over by a truck everytime I go outside but what you gonna do? Honestly if you have a problem, George is a reputable seller. I had an issue with my locksmith screwing up the blade and then dropping the blade and leaving a ding. I reached out to George and he took care of me. Trust me that this is better than shipping it to China like some of the early guys did to get this done. It was also $400! So for $150 this is a steal.
Im about to order from George as well but was curious on the type of locksmith that can cut the keys. What type of locksmith did you go to? George just said to google “bmw lock smith”
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Im about to order from George as well but was curious on the type of locksmith that can cut the keys. What type of locksmith did you go to? George just said to google “bmw lock smith”
I believe any locksmith that has a machine that can read the VIN/code off the key should be able to cut it accurately. Just don't have them try to use a machine that just traces the key pattern.
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      10-20-2020, 02:18 PM   #58
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Oddly I did exactly what the comment said above "google BMW locksmith." After a few issues on which side of the OEM key to use for a template, was done in a matter of minutes. All works as it should!
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Oddly I did exactly what the comment said above "google BMW locksmith." After a few issues on which side of the OEM key to use for a template, was done in a matter of minutes. All works as it should!
Ok so you just went to a locksmith that does bmw keys? Also which side is the correct side? Thanks!
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Guy told me the left although normally the right (think that was the confusion). He was a mobile locksmith and did it right in the van in my driveway! $65. Although only key hole is the driver's door.
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NYC folks... I got mine cut at "5th ave key shop" in Brooklyn and it works flawlessly. Cash only, around $35.

Went to a few other shops who kept recommending other shops and eventually wounded up there.
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Guy told me the left although normally the right (think that was the confusion). He was a mobile locksmith and did it right in the van in my driveway! $65. Although only key hole is the driver's door.
Ok cool. So after you got it cut you tried it on the car and it worked fine?

I wonder why the guy did it on the right side as oppsed to the left. I guess it doesn’t really matter as long as it opens the door
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Ok cool. So after you got it cut you tried it on the car and it worked fine?

I wonder why the guy did it on the right side as oppsed to the left. I guess it doesn’t really matter as long as it opens the door
No idea on the right vs. left, I know the tool would not reach the actual key on one side vs. other.

Yes, key opens the door.
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Here is a question though. If the car is locked (battery is fine on the car) and you open the car only with the blade, the alarm goes off (both with the retrofit and OEM key); how do you drive the car without the dongle, or is that just not happening and the blade is only when the car battery is dead?
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Here is a question though. If the car is locked (battery is fine on the car) and you open the car only with the blade, the alarm goes off (both with the retrofit and OEM key); how do you drive the car without the dongle, or is that just not happening and the blade is only when the car battery is dead?
I think you need the dongle. If your dongle battery is dead and you unlock the car with the blade, you can still start the car if you hold the dongle close to the push start button. There should be a marking on the steering column.

Without the dongle, you are SOL.
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Well I got my key in the mail today. Looks perfect, works perfect Very Very Satisfied

George from Gates was a real pleasure to deal with, fast responses to questions and I'm overall very satisfied with everything. This is what our cars should of really came with, and I'm happy George now made that happen.

When I looked inside the old key, I can tell it was de-soldered precisely and no overburn marks in sight.

Cheers!
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