Buying new tires, returning leased M4 in 14 months

[mrivc211]

So I'm returning my car in 14 months. I'm going to sell or trade in my car before the 14 months is up and worst case scenario return the car to BMW. I'm waaaay under on the miles. My question is does the brand of tires matter when returning the lease or does it have to be the same? Tire shop down the street can throw some cheapo generals on for $800 or costco is $1000. Whats the word on this? Thanks

[trey100]

Originally Posted by mrivc211

So I'm returning my car in 14 months. I'm going to sell or trade in my car before the 14 months is up and worst case scenario return the car to BMW. I'm waaaay under on the miles. My question is does the brand of tires matter when returning the lease or does it have to be the same? Tire shop down the street can throw some cheapo generals on for $800 or costco is $1000. Whats the word on this? Thanks

I can't answer specifically on an M but on my previous cars the lease agreement required only the same speed rating. I will be in a similar boat because I'd like to try different tires and don't want to be held to the MPSS or Contis. I recommend you look over the lease agreement.

[GCinFLA]

Originally Posted by mrivc211

So I'm returning my car in 14 months. I'm going to sell or trade in my car before the 14 months is up and worst case scenario return the car to BMW. I'm waaaay under on the miles. My question is does the brand of tires matter when returning the lease or does it have to be the same? Tire shop down the street can throw some cheapo generals on for $800 or costco is $1000. Whats the word on this? Thanks

There is a lot of debate on this on various forums.

The lease language would indicate same specs as OEM. However, there have been posts of Dealer not accepting MPSS that are not BMW * (star) Versions.

As Dealer does intake inspection for BMWFS, they pretty much call the shots and lease language pretty much gives them the ability to do that.

Others have had no issues with generic MPSS versions. All depends on Dealer as they most likely will be selling the car on their lot.

If you are purchasing/leasing another car, Dealer is much more forgiving on intake.

http://content.bmwusa.com/microsite/...G4_640x360.mp4

[SD ///M4]

Here's what I'm hearing" "I used up the excellent OEM tires that came with the car, but when I have to turn it in, I want to save money and buy cheap tires, even it the next person that gets the car gets screwed."

If a friend were to borrow your car, wore out the tires, replaced them with cheap tires, and then gave it back, how would that make you feel?

Sound like you only care if you're going to get screwed at turn-in if they notice the cheap tires. But that's just my opinion.

[sdshah]

Originally Posted by SD ///M4

Here's what I'm hearing" "I used up the excellent OEM tires that came with the car, but when I have to turn it in, I want to save money and buy cheap tires, even it the next person that gets the car gets screwed."

If a friend were to borrow your car, wore out the tires, replaced them with cheap tires, and then gave it back, how would that make you feel?

Sound like you only care if you're going to get screwed at turn-in if they notice the cheap tires. But that's just my opinion.

That's not his problem. Nor does he care about a dealerships profit. Life is about hacking to stay ahead. So you must be behind.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by sdshah

That's not his problem. Nor does he care about a dealerships profit. Life is about hacking to stay ahead. So you must be behind.

I'm behind by your definition and proud of it. I have no desire to walk over people or treat others like trash just so I can get ahead. Life should be so much better than that.

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by sdshah

That's not his problem. Nor does he care about a dealerships profit. Life is about hacking to stay ahead. So you must be behind.

Remind me not to lend you my car or buy anything from you in classifieds.

[sdshah]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

I'm behind by your definition and proud of it. I have no desire to walk over people or treat others like trash just so I can get ahead. Life should be so much better than that.

lol by turning in tires that aren't exactly the same as you got when you got the car?

How about you tuning your car then returning it back from a lease. Get real.

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by sdshah

lol by turning in tires that aren't exactly the same as you got when you got the car?

How about you tuning your car then returning it back from a lease. Get real.

There is a big difference in turning it in with different, but comparable tires, and turning it in with "some cheapo generals". I was being real.

[mrivc211]

Originally Posted by SD ///M4

Here's what I'm hearing" "I used up the excellent OEM tires that came with the car, but when I have to turn it in, I want to save money and buy cheap tires, even it the next person that gets the car gets screwed."

If a friend were to borrow your car, wore out the tires, replaced them with cheap tires, and then gave it back, how would that make you feel?

Sound like you only care if you're going to get screwed at turn-in if they notice the cheap tires. But that's just my opinion.

This is a simple business decision. So you're telling me you have a sentimental feeling toward a rented car? Mr. Honest Abe over here acting like I"m putting 15" rims on my M4.

Funny thing is the bank will actually make almost $10,000 on my lease return if I return the vehicle. I leased mine in Dec 2014. I've priced mine out and the average asking price for my car is $64,000 retail. My payoff is $54,000.

[mrivc211]

Originally Posted by sdshah

That's not his problem. Nor does he care about a dealerships profit. Life is about hacking to stay ahead. So you must be behind.

Exaclty.

I've been leasing cars for 20 years. I've never heard of anyone buying stock OEM tires on a lease return. In fact, I've seen people buy used tires on their cars then return them. The only stipulation that I recall when returning a car I leased in 2002 was that the tires have to have a minimum tread thickness. Nothing about brand name. Thought I'd ask here since its been over a decade.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

now we all siding with the dealer...if i saw some kyoto tires on a m. i would immediately take a g off the sale price or walk.

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by mrivc211

I've been leasing cars for 20 years. I've never heard of anyone buying stock OEM tires on a lease return. In fact, I've seen people buy used tires on their cars then return them. The only stipulation that I recall when returning a car I leased in 2002 was that the tires have to have a minimum tread thickness. Nothing about brand name. Thought I'd ask here since its been over a decade.

Lease return tires cannot be below 4/32" tread anywhere on the tire.

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

now we all siding with the dealer...if i saw some kyoto tires on a m. i would immediately take a g off the sale price or walk.

Again, as intake Dealer (acting on behalf of BMWFS) (1) has wide latitude according to the lease and (2) in most cases will have to sell the car on their lot or take their chances at auction (BMWFS gives the Dealer only a few mulligans per quarter to pass on), so the Dealer is the ultimate decision maker as to what they will allow and not allow.

In the case you stated, the Dealer might have sold another car to the lease owner and therefore overlooked those tires for the leaseholder.

Bottom line, if there is a $10k difference in value between residual and average price, the Dealer is bound to be more accommodating than if the margin is $1k.

[Habber]

Tread depth and speed rating makes sense but specifying the manufacturer is a bit too much IMO.

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by Habber

Tread depth and speed rating makes sense but specifying the manufacturer is a bit too much IMO.

Are your willing to accept non-OEM parts if someone hits your car?

Is it worth as much with non-OEM parts?

Would you pay the same for a car filled with non-OEM Parts?

[mrivc211]

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Are your willing to accept non-OEM parts if someone hits your car?

Is it worth as much with non-OEM parts?

Would you pay the same for a car filled with non-OEM Parts?

Dude, you're making up your own rules and expectations of how to treat a leased vehicle. You're just throwing money down the drain. Do you know how many times a dealer has ripped me off?

[Habber]

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Are your willing to accept non-OEM parts if someone hits your car?

Is it worth as much with non-OEM parts?

Would you pay the same for a car filled with non-OEM Parts?

It's a used car, not new off the lot so expectations need to be dampened a bit and people need to get off their horses. It's used, just like all the sheet metal, hoses, and everything else on the car. If you expect a used car to be a new car, good luck with that.

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by mrivc211

Dude, you're making up your own rules and expectations of how to treat a leased vehicle. You're just throwing money down the drain. Do you know how many times a dealer has ripped me off?

Guess what, the game is stacked against you....just like Vegas.

You just now figuring that out?

[Kabrich]

Originally Posted by Habber

It's a used car, not new off the lot so expectations need to be dampened a bit and people need to get off their horses. It's used, just like all the sheet metal, hoses, and everything else on the car. If you expect a used car to be a new car, good luck with that.

No, you accepted use of the car and are expected to return in essentially same condition.

If you destroyed a room in a Four Seasons overnight, do you think they would replace it with Motel 6 furnishings and call it a day?

[mrivc211]

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Guess what, the game is stacked against you....just like Vegas.

You just now figuring that out?

What? smh

[mrivc211]

Originally Posted by Kabrich

No, you accepted use of the car and are expected to return in essentially same condition.

If you destroyed a room in a Four Seasons overnight, do you think they would replace it with Motel 6 furnishings and call it a day?

Terrible analogy. Seems like everyone on here is trying to get thru to you but the lights are turned off. Anyways, I got my answer so I'm moving on. Thanks to those that responded.