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      05-07-2019, 11:48 PM   #683
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Used. Bought it from a private seller car enthusiast who bought it new 6 months ago.
Damn, DAT depreciation ain't no joke.

What a bargain! Great job man!
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      05-08-2019, 05:40 AM   #684
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Damn, DAT depreciation ain't no joke.

What a bargain! Great job man!
Yeah, a 500 mile car for 28.2% off of MSRP.

I'll take it!

Look out below when the new M3's start hitting the streets next year.
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      05-08-2019, 10:53 AM   #685
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Totally agree. Leftover new M3s on lots should go about this price or lower if you can find one you like color/options wise.
True..and thanks everyone for the input!

Heres the deal I ended up going with.

Lease on an 18' M3 - 1400 miles ( was an executive loaner)
Sakhir Orange
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ZCP
Exec
Drivers assist package
Extended leather merino
Carbon Ceramics


36mo 15k miles/year ( I do plan on driving the car)
$0 down (excluding purchased 7x MSD's) so will get that money back at the end
pmt is 870'ish

Car had a 92K sticker, dealer was selling for 75. Residual $53K

Compared to the "deal" i posted yesterday, this seems like a MUCH better option..
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      05-10-2019, 02:07 PM   #686
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Getting an offer for a 2018 M3 with comp pack, executive, drive assist, m performance exhaust, CF front splitter, mirror cap etc etc all factory installed. Pretty much every option you can get

How does this look

24 month/10K miles lease

msrp: 95K
Discount 18% on msrp
MF .00165
Residual 67%
no msd and nothing due at signing
855/month tax inclusive (9.5% tax rate)

Also, I'd like to know if this will be a difficult lease to transfer after a year in terms of payment for potential buyers

Thanks!
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      05-10-2019, 04:19 PM   #687
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Getting an offer for a 2018 M3 with comp pack, executive, drive assist, m performance exhaust, CF front splitter, mirror cap etc etc all factory installed. Pretty much every option you can get

How does this look

24 month/10K miles lease

msrp: 95K
Discount 18% on msrp
MF .00165
Residual 67%
no msd and nothing due at signing
855/month tax inclusive (9.5% tax rate)

Also, I'd like to know if this will be a difficult lease to transfer after a year in terms of payment for potential buyers

Thanks!
It would be decent payment for this MSRP at 36mo lease, but feels high for 24mo. I guess discount already includes incentives? I'd try to push for this discount before incentives.

For lease transfer I think it's not bad payment, you might need to do a bit of incentive to get it offloaded (also high residual might scare some buyers)
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      05-10-2019, 04:21 PM   #688
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Discount is off msrp only.
The incentive is $3500 for lease
Didn't qualify for any loyalty or OL codes, so just the $3500
For 36 month, payments were almost the same...slightly lower.
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it looks like BMWusa now has a $5750 lease credit on 2019 M4's

I was able to automatically get an 11.5% off MSRP here in Florida, and they applied the original $3250 lease credit (from last week). Seems like there is now a $5750 lease credit this week, I'm having the dealer check into this to make sure BMWUSA's website is accurate.

my out the door price would be about 68K on a 83K MSRP M4, but the lease rates with a $4825 due at signing is still $822 (with taxes), so it sounds the money factor may be high. I have not negotiated anything yet, that was their offer to me. I think I can get it down to the upper $700 range without much effort, especially since the car has been sitting there for almost a year if not longer.
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it looks like BMWusa now has a $5750 lease credit on 2019 M4's

I was able to automatically get an 11.5% off MSRP here in Florida, and they applied the original $3250 lease credit (from last week). Seems like there is now a $5750 lease credit this week, I'm having the dealer check into this to make sure BMWUSA's website is accurate.

my out the door price would be about 68K on a 83K MSRP M4, but the lease rates with a $4825 due at signing is still $822 (with taxes), so it sounds the money factor may be high. I have not negotiated anything yet, that was their offer to me. I think I can get it down to the upper $700 range without much effort, especially since the car has been sitting there for almost a year if not longer.
Wow, that's amazing, I just paid a deposit for 2019 M4 at 83k also, but 3k upfront and 980 per month.

Getting to the 800s would be insane, the savings would far outweigh what I lost on 1k deposit. Didn't realize I could get it for that low, not sure what I should do now... would those type of numbers be achievable in the NY area? Haven't picked up car yet or signed lease papers, that was the plan this weekend...
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      05-19-2019, 11:44 AM   #691
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Here was my deal on a 2019 M4 with an $84k sticker:

MSRP: $84,065
Discount: $5,285 (invoice)
Rebate: $6,750
Loyalty: $2,500
Dealer Fees/non tax fees: $518.19

Adjusted price: $70,048.19

The bummer is that they charged tax on the whole thing and wouldn’t give me the trade in tax credit because my trade was a lease. Otherwise I’m very happy with the deal. I know others have gotten better deals, but this is my third M car and by far my best deal.
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      05-19-2019, 11:48 AM   #692
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it looks like BMWusa now has a $5750 lease credit on 2019 M4's

I was able to automatically get an 11.5% off MSRP here in Florida, and they applied the original $3250 lease credit (from last week). Seems like there is now a $5750 lease credit this week, I'm having the dealer check into this to make sure BMWUSA's website is accurate.

my out the door price would be about 68K on a 83K MSRP M4, but the lease rates with a $4825 due at signing is still $822 (with taxes), so it sounds the money factor may be high. I have not negotiated anything yet, that was their offer to me. I think I can get it down to the upper $700 range without much effort, especially since the car has been sitting there for almost a year if not longer.
You mentioning the increased credit (it increased mid-month for both buying and leasing) literally saved me $2.5k, as I was in the middle of negotiating a deal and didnít realize that the rebates could change mid month. Thanks so much ó I would nit have checked again without you!
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      05-20-2019, 11:52 AM   #693
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No problem, still working deals myself currently. Some of these 106k M4 CS deals may end up not much more than a 83k M4 Competition, just wish there were more colors other than BSM...
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No problem, still working deals myself currently. Some of these 106k M4 CS deals may end up not much more than a 83k M4 Competition, just wish there were more colors other than BSM...
I had a cheaper deal on a 2018 CS then on the 2020 M4 I just ordered. $100 per month difference. I just didn't want to give up Comfort Access and a few of the other Amenities.
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      05-20-2019, 01:38 PM   #695
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I had a cheaper deal on a 2018 CS then on the 2020 M4 I just ordered. $100 per month difference. I just didn't want to give up Comfort Access and a few of the other Amenities.
Any reason you didn't go for a 2019 with the $9250 rebate available now (plus whatever you can negotiate with sticker)? Might be worthwhile to do an auto trader nationwide search to see if you can find a ZCP with all of the options that you want. That's what I did.
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I had a cheaper deal on a 2018 CS then on the 2020 M4 I just ordered. $100 per month difference. I just didn't want to give up Comfort Access and a few of the other Amenities.
Any reason you didn't go for a 2019 with the $9250 rebate available now (plus whatever you can negotiate with sticker)? Might be worthwhile to do an auto trader nationwide search to see if you can find a ZCP with all of the options that you want. That's what I did.
I tried but I couldn't find exactly what I wanted on a dealers lot for a 2019. Actually I did find two at BMW of Austin but they wouldn't work with me. They wanted over $1100 a month for a 2019 ZCP. I laughed and then they were like we don't want to make deals with out of staters. Losers!

So I said fuck it and ordered the exact car I wanted. You only live once.
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I tried but I couldn't find exactly what I wanted on a dealers lot for a 2019. Actually I did find two at BMW of Austin but they wouldn't work with me. They wanted over $1100 a month for a 2019 ZCP. I laughed and then they were like we don't want to make deals with out of staters. Losers!

So I said fuck it and ordered the exact car I wanted. You only live once.
You laugh at that payment but I was quoted that when I was shopping for a fkn X4 M40i before going back to Audi. I was shocked when multiple dealers sent me emails all consistently over 11xx/mo for a 3/36.

I can't imagine the sucker that would pay that amount on a fake-M.
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Any reason you didn't go for a 2019 with the $9250 rebate available now (plus whatever you can negotiate with sticker)? Might be worthwhile to do an auto trader nationwide search to see if you can find a ZCP with all of the options that you want. That's what I did.
$9250 rebate? i thought it was $5750 + $2500 (loyalty) = $8250?
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$9250 rebate? i thought it was $5750 + $2500 (loyalty) = $8250?
It varies by region. Here it was $6750 + $2500.
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I tried but I couldn't find exactly what I wanted on a dealers lot for a 2019. Actually I did find two at BMW of Austin but they wouldn't work with me. They wanted over $1100 a month for a 2019 ZCP. I laughed and then they were like we don't want to make deals with out of staters. Losers!

So I said fuck it and ordered the exact car I wanted. You only live once.
You laugh at that payment but I was quoted that when I was shopping for a fkn X4 M40i before going back to Audi. I was shocked when multiple dealers sent me emails all consistently over 11xx/mo for a 3/36.

I can't imagine the sucker that would pay that amount on a fake-M.
That's craziness. There are too many fake ///Ms in the world as far as I'm concerned. I'm curious what they are gonna want for the X3M? $1500 a month? Haha. Yeah that's worth it. Not!
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Folks.


How much << read big>> of a discount do you think there is on this car:

Msrp ; 91585

Selling price : 81985 - 4250 rebates/ loyalty

See attached window sticker and lease offer.


I see the money factor is slightly marked up. That is not the issue here. Also, disregard all of the sales tax stuff. Illinois / Chicago is stupid . I have a solution.

I just don't know if there is any room for a bigger discount . I think they are making 1390 ish. Seems ok on a 91k M3

I could push for 12% off - incentives // base money factor but the ca is cool . They gotta make some money.

So please focus on the discount off msrp if possible .

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CarGurus says the car has been there 293 days.
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Folks.


How much << read big>> of a discount do you think there is on this car:

Msrp ; 91585

Selling price : 81985 - 4250 rebates/ loyalty

See attached window sticker and lease offer.


I see the money factor is slightly marked up. That is not the issue here. Also, disregard all of the sales tax stuff. Illinois / Chicago is stupid . I have a solution.

I just don't know if there is any room for a bigger discount . I think they are making 1390 ish. Seems ok on a 91k M3

I could push for 12% off - incentives // base money factor but the ca is cool . They gotta make some money.

So please focus on the discount off msrp if possible .

Thanks

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CarGurus says the car has been there 293 days.
I would want at least 15-18% off before incentives. Mainly because that MSRP is crazy. It's a loaded dct car with comp pack, and the 763M tire set for another $5500! That's crazy to order that on top of the comp package, when you don't even get the comp wheels to sell. I can see why this car has been sitting for almost 300 days.
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Folks.


How much << read big>> of a discount do you think there is on this car:

Msrp ; 91585

Selling price : 81985 - 4250 rebates/ loyalty

See attached window sticker and lease offer.


I see the money factor is slightly marked up. That is not the issue here. Also, disregard all of the sales tax stuff. Illinois / Chicago is stupid . I have a solution.

I just don't know if there is any room for a bigger discount . I think they are making 1390 ish. Seems ok on a 91k M3

I could push for 12% off - incentives // base money factor but the ca is cool . They gotta make some money.

So please focus on the discount off msrp if possible .

Thanks

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CarGurus says the car has been there 293 days.
personally i think the 763m wheels look atrocious...
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I was negotiating around for 2018 and BMW west Houston agreed for one time payment $28729 10k for 36 months , the good thing was i asked them for a one time pay which will reduce the tax to 1%

I bought another one so if any one wants to pick it, its still there and they have two black on black .
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