VIBE Motorsports
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Forum > F80 M3 / M4 Pricing, Ordering, European Delivery

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-24-2019, 03:37 PM   #705
Buzios
Enlisted Member
19
Rep
32
Posts

Drives: 2013 E350 coupe, 2007 F430
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Orange County

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by getjiji View Post
I was negotiating around for 2018 and BMW west Houston agreed for one time payment $28729 10k for 36 months , the good thing was i asked them for a one time pay which will reduce the tax to 1%

I bought another one so if any one wants to pick it, its still there and they have two black on black .
Can you walk us through how you got there? What discounts off msrp, rebates, etc?
Appreciate 0
      05-25-2019, 08:33 AM   #706
getjiji
Registered
getjiji's Avatar
United_States
2
Rep
4
Posts

Drives: F 80 2017 Black on Black
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Houston

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzios View Post
Can you walk us through how you got there? What discounts off msrp, rebates, etc?
I was not negotiating for a lease, lease was my second option . My intention was to get them to the lowest possible MSRP, which they came down to 85k which is a straight 10k discount .

The MF they told me was .0021 which is 5% interest and the residual was 61%

They still have that Car in stock , i did not buy it , you can negotiate and ship it wherever you want it. I am sure they will honor these numbers. They are not showing that in their inventory so you will never find it.They are keeping that as demo but its not a demo.
Appreciate 1
Buzios18.50

      05-25-2019, 10:11 AM   #707
noone
Private First Class
165
Rep
186
Posts

Drives: 2018 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by getjiji View Post
I was not negotiating for a lease, lease was my second option . My intention was to get them to the lowest possible MSRP, which they came down to 85k which is a straight 10k discount .

The MF they told me was .0021 which is 5% interest and the residual was 61%

They still have that Car in stock , i did not buy it , you can negotiate and ship it wherever you want it. I am sure they will honor these numbers. They are not showing that in their inventory so you will never find it.They are keeping that as demo but its not a demo.
Don't do it. I negotiated a 101k something CS down to 79k with finance incentives at the end of April. I didn't pull the trigger because I still thought it was too much money for a 3 series. Sorry, but I draw the line at 70k for a 3 series, but that's just my tolerance. I ended up finding a used 500 mile loaded M3 comp with carbon everything and MPE all from the factory with a sticker of 96.1K for 69K from a private seller car guy. Flew in and picked it up and drove it home 800 miles a few weeks ago and it's awesome and a brand new car. When he bought it last November, he had it transported to his house from a dealer several hundred miles away so he started driving it with around 3 miles on it. The fact that I knew this car wasn't a demo car and was from a private seller attracted me to this deal even though I had to fly to pick it up which was a $300 plane ticket. The best I was able to negotiate on a brand new M3 comp from a dealer was around 75k on 85k stickers similar to what you are being offered. So moral of the story, shop around. There are deals out there.

Last edited by noone; 05-25-2019 at 10:20 AM..
Appreciate 0
      05-25-2019, 08:57 PM   #708
audiogolf
Private First Class
audiogolf's Avatar
21
Rep
158
Posts

Drives: 2019 M4 ZCP 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: New Jersey, USA

iTrader: (0)

new M4 ZCP 6MT

just pulled the trigger today on a 2019 M4 ZCP 6MT.

799/month , no money down only oop - 1st month and 7MSD. The payment also includes bmw maintenance worth $600+tax and two of my remaining payments of the 2016 750xi lease (~$2050).

MSRP - $80480
Net price - $62K
12K miles/Yr, 36month lease
options
ZCP
paint
full leather
executive pkg
hsw
blind spot
wireless charging
CF rear spoiler

BLK/BLK/BLK 666 wheels.
Appreciate 0
      05-25-2019, 10:36 PM   #709
brocurls
Private First Class
United_States
83
Rep
134
Posts

Drives: Mazdarati
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: DE

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by audiogolf View Post
just pulled the trigger today on a 2019 M4 ZCP 6MT.

799/month , no money down only oop - 1st month and 7MSD. The payment also includes bmw maintenance worth $600+tax and two of my remaining payments of the 2016 750xi lease (~$2050).

MSRP - $80480
Net price - $62K
12K miles/Yr, 36month lease
options
ZCP
paint
full leather
executive pkg
hsw
blind spot
wireless charging
CF rear spoiler

BLK/BLK/BLK 666 wheels.
Bravo, that's a great deal
__________________
///2020 M4 (F82) SanMarinoBlue w/Full BlkLeath, Comp, Exec, ABSM, 6MT

DD: 2016 Mazda CX-5 GT AWD MeteorGray
Wife's: 2019 Audi SQ5 NavarraBlue Premium Plus w/Blk Optic Package
Appreciate 0
      05-27-2019, 07:17 PM   #710
Buzios
Enlisted Member
19
Rep
32
Posts

Drives: 2013 E350 coupe, 2007 F430
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Orange County

iTrader: (0)

Ready to buy my M4, but wondering if I'm trying to get an unreasonable discount.

2019 M4 ZCP Exec Pkg DCT
MSRP - 86k
Discount - 6,250 (I'm trying to up that to an even 10k)
Lease adjustments - 7,750 (loyalty + 5,250 lease credit)
Net Price - 72k

36 mo. w 10k miles/yr

7 MSDs and $0 down other than the required payments brings monthly payments to the high $800s (incl. taxes). I'm trying to get them to give me a larger discount off MSRP in order to get the payments down to the high $700s. Does that seem achievable given experiences from others, or am I actually sitting on a pretty good deal already?

Also, I know we're just guessing at this point, but any perspectives on whether I might be better off waiting until June?

Thanks!
Appreciate 0
      05-27-2019, 11:22 PM   #711
jmg
Major General
jmg's Avatar
United_States
6895
Rep
8,214
Posts

Drives: F80 M3 CS, I01 i3 REx LCI
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzios View Post
Ready to buy my M4, but wondering if I'm trying to get an unreasonable discount.

2019 M4 ZCP Exec Pkg DCT
MSRP - 86k
Discount - 6,250 (I'm trying to up that to an even 10k)
Lease adjustments - 7,750 (loyalty + 5,250 lease credit)
Net Price - 72k

36 mo. w 10k miles/yr

7 MSDs and $0 down other than the required payments brings monthly payments to the high $800s (incl. taxes). I'm trying to get them to give me a larger discount off MSRP in order to get the payments down to the high $700s. Does that seem achievable given experiences from others, or am I actually sitting on a pretty good deal already?

Also, I know we're just guessing at this point, but any perspectives on whether I might be better off waiting until June?

Thanks!
It all depends on the availability and demand in your region. Most people will say you can ask for more off... because you can ask. Doesn't mean you will necessarily get it. My advice is always to shop these numbers to another dealer and see if they can beat it. Then throw the new numbers at your current dealer and see if they can beat it. Rinse and repeat until you reach the bottom. The more dealers you call, the better the chance at the best deal. Good luck!
__________________
F80 ///M3 CS - Lime Rock Grey Metallic - M Performance Exhaust | I01 i3 REx - LCI
Previous: F80 M3 | I01 i3 REx | F30 340i M Sport ZTR | F30 328i Sport | Audi B7 S4 25Quattro #33 of 250 | E21 320i

Appreciate 1
Buzios18.50

      05-28-2019, 10:45 AM   #712
nirvanayoda
First Lieutenant
United_States
75
Rep
368
Posts

Drives: 2019 M4 ZCP
Join Date: May 2009
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzios View Post
Ready to buy my M4, but wondering if I'm trying to get an unreasonable discount.

2019 M4 ZCP Exec Pkg DCT
MSRP - 86k
Discount - 6,250 (I'm trying to up that to an even 10k)
Lease adjustments - 7,750 (loyalty + 5,250 lease credit)
Net Price - 72k

36 mo. w 10k miles/yr

7 MSDs and $0 down other than the required payments brings monthly payments to the high $800s (incl. taxes). I'm trying to get them to give me a larger discount off MSRP in order to get the payments down to the high $700s. Does that seem achievable given experiences from others, or am I actually sitting on a pretty good deal already?

Also, I know we're just guessing at this point, but any perspectives on whether I might be better off waiting until June?

Thanks!
This is similar to a deal I just made about 10 days ago (except I purchased instead of leased). I felt comfortable with it, as it didnít seem like Iíd get much more off and the rebates were so high that I didnít want to risk going into June and potentially losing some portion. Totally your call either way and other posters may have a different view, but Iím very happy with my deal and the car.
Appreciate 1
Buzios18.50

      05-30-2019, 10:45 PM   #713
BMWnLakers
Registered
0
Rep
4
Posts

Drives: none
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Hey all,

First time poster. Love this website. In the market for a M4 CS 15k a year miles. Do you guys think its possible to negotiate one to below 1,000$ a month (or just at 1,000$). I've looked back and seen some good deals for 10K but just don't know how much 15k a year will change.

Thank you!

**edit living in Cali btw

Last edited by BMWnLakers; 05-30-2019 at 10:46 PM.. Reason: added edit
Appreciate 0
      05-30-2019, 11:38 PM   #714
Buzios
Enlisted Member
19
Rep
32
Posts

Drives: 2013 E350 coupe, 2007 F430
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Orange County

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWnLakers View Post
Hey all,

First time poster. Love this website. In the market for a M4 CS 15k a year miles. Do you guys think its possible to negotiate one to below 1,000$ a month (or just at 1,000$). I've looked back and seen some good deals for 10K but just don't know how much 15k a year will change.

Thank you!

**edit living in Cali btw
Absolutely possible. Call a 3-4 dealers that have a M4CS with the specs you want and ask how far they are willing to move off MSRP. Everything else is fairly standard in the lease anyway. At least one will want to move aggressively and that will get you under $1,000 pretty quickly.
Appreciate 0
      05-31-2019, 02:40 AM   #715
///M4ster Yoda
Brigadier General
///M4ster Yoda's Avatar
2858
Rep
3,353
Posts

Drives: '16 F82 M4
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWnLakers View Post
Hey all,

First time poster. Love this website. In the market for a M4 CS 15k a year miles. Do you guys think its possible to negotiate one to below 1,000$ a month (or just at 1,000$). I've looked back and seen some good deals for 10K but just don't know how much 15k a year will change.

Thank you!

**edit living in Cali btw
Yes. It's definitely possible. Should be fairly easy at this point. Good luck.
__________________
'03 330 '04 325 '08 328 '11 335 '11 335is
'14 335 '16 340 '16 M4 (Retired)
4 ED's 1 PCD
Current Stable: '19 X3 (Wifey) '20 ZCP M4 (Mine)
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2019, 12:04 AM   #716
BMWnLakers
Registered
0
Rep
4
Posts

Drives: none
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda View Post
Yes. It's definitely possible. Should be fairly easy at this point. Good luck.
thanks guys! ill post the offers I get here to help other posters.
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2019, 12:41 AM   #717
Buzios
Enlisted Member
19
Rep
32
Posts

Drives: 2013 E350 coupe, 2007 F430
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Orange County

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzios View Post
Ready to buy my M4, but wondering if I'm trying to get an unreasonable discount.

2019 M4 ZCP Exec Pkg DCT
MSRP - 86k
Discount - 6,250 (I'm trying to up that to an even 10k)
Lease adjustments - 7,750 (loyalty + 5,250 lease credit)
Net Price - 72k

36 mo. w 10k miles/yr

7 MSDs and $0 down other than the required payments brings monthly payments to the high $800s (incl. taxes). I'm trying to get them to give me a larger discount off MSRP in order to get the payments down to the high $700s. Does that seem achievable given experiences from others, or am I actually sitting on a pretty good deal already?

Also, I know we're just guessing at this point, but any perspectives on whether I might be better off waiting until June?

Thanks!
Just wanted to give you guys the update. I leased this car today. Didn't quite get to $10k off MSRP (though I did get that offer elsewhere, just didn't love the spec as much), but got $8k off. All in, 86k MSRP was 70k out of the door, with payments just over $840 after tax for 36 mo/12k miles.

Thanks for all your direct and indirect help. Without this board it would've been much harder to get this deal!
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2019, 06:05 AM   #718
spool twice
Rainbow Racer
spool twice's Avatar
United_States
153
Rep
1,451
Posts

Drives: BMW M4cs
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tampa Bay, FL Area

iTrader: (7)

Garage List
2019 M4cs  [0.00]
for an 86K MSRP, I feel you did very well. The quotes I received for upper 700's were MSRP's in the 78K range, with the low 800's in the 82K range MSRP. Did you ger more specifics such as the money factor?
__________________
-Loe P.-
Prior: '02 S4 6spd / '04 M3 SMG / '04 S4 6spd / '07 E92 335i 6spd / '09 E90 M3 DCT
Sold:'14 Audi S5 DSG [ APR ECU/TCU | Pullies + basic bolt-on mods | 10.861@127.90mph ]
Current: '19 M4cs, '17 Jetta 1.4t 5spd
Appreciate 1
Buzios18.50

      06-01-2019, 10:21 AM   #719
Buzios
Enlisted Member
19
Rep
32
Posts

Drives: 2013 E350 coupe, 2007 F430
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Orange County

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by spool twice View Post
for an 86K MSRP, I feel you did very well. The quotes I received for upper 700's were MSRP's in the 78K range, with the low 800's in the 82K range MSRP. Did you ger more specifics such as the money factor?
Thanks!

MF was .00165 base down to .00130 with security deposits.

Residual was 56%
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2019, 01:52 PM   #720
99range
Registered
0
Rep
4
Posts

Drives: Cadillac CTS
Join Date: May 2019
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

is this a good deal?

3 years 30k miles

2019 M4 ZCP 83,610 MSRP
Mineral Gray
Extended leather
manual
executive package

5750 rebate
5000 down
7k discount

adjusted selling price: 70.6k
after taxes and fees: 76k

residual purchase option: 47k

monthly payment: 840

I feel like with that kind of money down I should be getting something in low 800s or even 700s. Maybe even getting some more discount off the MSRP? First time working with leasing so would love some feedback
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2019, 03:19 PM   #721
Buzios
Enlisted Member
19
Rep
32
Posts

Drives: 2013 E350 coupe, 2007 F430
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Orange County

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 99range View Post
is this a good deal?

3 years 30k miles

2019 M4 ZCP 83,610 MSRP
Mineral Gray
Extended leather
manual
executive package

5750 rebate
5000 down
7k discount

adjusted selling price: 70.6k
after taxes and fees: 76k

residual purchase option: 47k

monthly payment: 840

I feel like with that kind of money down I should be getting something in low 800s or even 700s. Maybe even getting some more discount off the MSRP? First time working with leasing so would love some feedback
What's the money factor they are using? And are you making the security deposits?
Finally, I'd strongly encourage you to research the topic of putting money down. Most people consider it best practice to put as little down as possible (and it might also help you with the security deposits).
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2019, 03:55 PM   #722
99range
Registered
0
Rep
4
Posts

Drives: Cadillac CTS
Join Date: May 2019
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzios View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 99range View Post
is this a good deal?

3 years 30k miles

2019 M4 ZCP 83,610 MSRP
Mineral Gray
Extended leather
manual
executive package

5750 rebate
5000 down
7k discount

adjusted selling price: 70.6k
after taxes and fees: 76k

residual purchase option: 47k

monthly payment: 840

I feel like with that kind of money down I should be getting something in low 800s or even 700s. Maybe even getting some more discount off the MSRP? First time working with leasing so would love some feedback
What's the money factor they are using? And are you making the security deposits?
Finally, I'd strongly encourage you to research the topic of putting money down. Most people consider it best practice to put as little down as possible (and it might also help you with the security deposits).

I'm checking out the numbers they gave me and I see no area for money factor. You think there's any budge to get this to an adjusted price of in the 60s?

Last edited by 99range; 06-01-2019 at 07:55 PM..
Appreciate 0
      06-02-2019, 01:20 PM   #723
TrevorM3
Major General
1218
Rep
5,815
Posts

Drives: 6.3 AMG
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 99range View Post
is this a good deal?

3 years 30k miles

2019 M4 ZCP 83,610 MSRP
Mineral Gray
Extended leather
manual
executive package

5750 rebate
5000 down
7k discount

adjusted selling price: 70.6k
after taxes and fees: 76k

residual purchase option: 47k

monthly payment: 840

I feel like with that kind of money down I should be getting something in low 800s or even 700s. Maybe even getting some more discount off the MSRP? First time working with leasing so would love some feedback


tell them 785 tax in is where you need to be.
Be willing to walk.
Appreciate 0
      06-02-2019, 08:53 PM   #724
audiogolf
Private First Class
audiogolf's Avatar
21
Rep
158
Posts

Drives: 2019 M4 ZCP 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: New Jersey, USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 99range View Post
is this a good deal?

3 years 30k miles

2019 M4 ZCP 83,610 MSRP
Mineral Gray
Extended leather
manual
executive package

5750 rebate
5000 down
7k discount

adjusted selling price: 70.6k
after taxes and fees: 76k

residual purchase option: 47k

monthly payment: 840

I feel like with that kind of money down I should be getting something in low 800s or even 700s. Maybe even getting some more discount off the MSRP? First time working with leasing so would love some feedback
is the downpayment for MSDs or you are putting down to bring your monthly payment lower?

Assuming you are in NJ (from your profile), you can see the discounts I got for ZCP 6MT just last week, I have applied the same discounts and rebates that I got, If you are a prior BMW customer you will get an additional Loyalty of $2500 (i have applied it in the calculations), if not your payments would go up by $75, but if you apply the $5000 down and no loyalty, your payments would drop down to $730/month. in the calculations shown, I just applied a downpayment of $100 just to bring payment at $800/month, else your MSD becomes $850 for anything over $800.

good luck negotiating.
Attached Images
File Type: pdf lease_bmwM4ZCPDCT.pdf (12.8 KB, 34 views)
Appreciate 0
      06-03-2019, 01:45 PM   #725
Jason
Administrator
Jason's Avatar
United_States
21478
Rep
19,692
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Updated with June 2019 program rates.
__________________
Check on the Latest BMW News
Become a fan of Bimmerpost Facebook
Follow us on Bimmerpost Twitter
Subscribe to Bimmerpost Youtube Channel
Appreciate 0
      06-03-2019, 03:55 PM   #726
alex2364
Major
alex2364's Avatar
United_States
817
Rep
1,479
Posts

Drives: 2017 M4 ZCP
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Northern VA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2017 BMW M4  [0.00]
Lease support for the F80 is officially over!
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:29 PM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST