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      07-09-2019, 04:59 PM   #771
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Can you please clarify. For 2019 M4 CS @ 24months with 10K per year, 94089:

- Is loyalty still at $2500
- lease rebate at $5,000 instead of $5,250?
- MF changed from 0.00165 to 0.00145?

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WOW! if MF changed by that much, that more than offsets the lower lease rebate!

Also on a 2019 M4, aim for 87,000 for a 106-107k MSRP to 91K on a 120+ MRSP, it'll happen, just find the right dealer.
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WOW! if MF changed by that much, that more than offsets the lower lease rebate!

Also on a 2019 M4, aim for 87,000 for a 106-107k MSRP to 91K on a 120+ MRSP, it'll happen, just find the right dealer.
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I doubt the money factor went down. Rates are rising everywhere
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I went to the BMW USA website yesterday and reviewed the 2020 M4 lease offer example. I plugged BMW's numbers into my lease worksheet and calculated $898.60/month base payment (no sales tax) by using a money factor of .00145. BMW USA example shows $899/month for 36 mos. 30K miles.

Using the same BMW numbers and a money factor of .00165 the base monthly payment would increase to $920.53.
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I went to the BMW USA website yesterday and reviewed the 2020 M4 lease offer example. I plugged BMW's numbers into my lease worksheet and calculated $898.60/month base payment (no sales tax) by using a money factor of .00145. BMW USA example shows $899/month for 36 mos. 30K miles.

Using the same BMW numbers and a money factor of .00165 the base monthly payment would increase to $920.53.
Makes sense. Looks like they're playing the shell game. Lower the incentives and offset with lower money factor.....
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Just took delivery of a 2019 M4 CS (California dealer)
$107,500k MSRP
Selling price: $80 (Including Lease and Loyalty Incentives)
36 month lease/15k miles per year
$950/month tax included with 4K drive off

.00165 Money Factor
54% Residual

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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
There's an '18 M4 with 16 miles, comp, exec, manual for only $69K in Portland, OR. I haven't ran the vin, but dang
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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
There's an '18 M4 with 16 miles, comp, exec, manual for only $69K in Portland, OR. I haven't ran the vin, but dang
The 2020s are out. That is a 2 year old car
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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
There's an '18 M4 with 16 miles, comp, exec, manual for only $69K in Portland, OR. I haven't ran the vin, but dang
The 2020s are out. That is a 2 year old car
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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
There's an '18 M4 with 16 miles, comp, exec, manual for only $69K in Portland, OR. I haven't ran the vin, but dang
The 2020s are out. That is a 2 year old car
Point in case?
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      07-12-2019, 10:52 AM   #782
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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
There's an '18 M4 with 16 miles, comp, exec, manual for only $69K in Portland, OR. I haven't ran the vin, but dang
The 2020s are out. That is a 2 year old car
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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
There's an '18 M4 with 16 miles, comp, exec, manual for only $69K in Portland, OR. I haven't ran the vin, but dang
The 2020s are out. That is a 2 year old car
Point in case?
2018s are TWO years old. Of course they are going to be "discounted".

I thought it was obvious.
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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
There's an '18 M4 with 16 miles, comp, exec, manual for only $69K in Portland, OR. I haven't ran the vin, but dang
The 2020s are out. That is a 2 year old car
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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
There's an '18 M4 with 16 miles, comp, exec, manual for only $69K in Portland, OR. I haven't ran the vin, but dang
The 2020s are out. That is a 2 year old car
Point in case?
2018s are TWO years old. Of course they are going to be "discounted".

I thought it was obvious.
He said he was looking at one for $85K

I pointed out one for $15K cheaper
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He said he was looking at one for $85K

I pointed out one for $15K cheaper

Thanks for the info. But that $15K difference is more for MT in my opinion. It is not that relevant to how much off MSRP for a "2 yera old new car" I should ask from the BMW dealership. But I do appreciate your help.
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2018s are TWO years old. Of course they are going to be "discounted".

I thought it was obvious.

Right, it definitely should be. But I just do not have an idea how much discount I should expect or start with for a "2 year old new car". I suspect it should be more discounted than a current MY, but what range shall I look for? 25% off MSRP?
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2018s are TWO years old. Of course they are going to be "discounted".

I thought it was obvious.

Right, it definitely should be. But I just do not have an idea how much discount I should expect or start with for a "2 year old new car". I suspect it should be more discounted than a current MY, but what range shall I look for? 25% off MSRP?
I would think that is dealer dependent. 25K sounds like a good place to start.
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Hi guys, I found a new 2018 M4 coupe in a Michigan BMW dealership with MSRP $85,805. Looking to lease that 36/10K but I am not sure how much discount I should start to ask for with dealer for a previous MY car, any suggestions?
You can't lease the 2018's anymore. Check out 2019's.
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You can't lease the 2018's anymore. Check out 2019's.
Even for a M4? I know 2018 M3 was done on lease.
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You can't lease the 2018's anymore. Check out 2019's.
Even for a M4? I know 2018 M3 was done on lease.
M3 was an exception for 2018's. 4 series support ended before that.
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Are there any more M4 CS lease deals available because these ZCP m4 deals are terrible.
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https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/2019-...-0-down/152133

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From why they're saying, it was effectively around $7K out of pocket figuring in the MSD's. Good deal, but others on here have gotten better deals
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