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      12-04-2017, 07:57 PM   #45
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This could be a loaded question, but what would the approximate power/torque differences be when comparing 93 octane to E85? I love the power gains and consistency of E85, but hate how it is not available everywhere. We do have a lot of gas stations that offer it, but that would require me to plan out my trips a lot more haha. Solid numbers and amazing tune from what I can see! Making me want to make the switch to BM3 very soon...

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Alt Fuel Prices.com found 172 cities with public E85 Ethanol stations in Illinois (259 stations total). They are all listed below, with the number of stations in each city given in parentheses. Click on a city name to see the stations in that city.

http://www.altfuelprices.com/stations/E85/Illinois/

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The advantages of E85 far outweigh the disadvantages of having to plan a trip to the station that carries it. 93 doesn't even come close to comparing.

they are pretty much all over the Dallas Fort Worth metro area.. .... we have reformulated gas anyway.

here is a national map indicating over 3000 stations in the US.

https://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/et...locations.html

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Does any of this e85 tuning help towards tuning e85 on the n55?
Exactly my thoughts. As soon as you have custom e85 maps for the n55 pwg I'll be contacting you. I'm sick of dealing with the shit gas I have up here. I'll be running an E30 mix
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The only question I would have on this is how will the HPFP hold up over time with all that E85. Insanely impressive numbers though.
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Exactly my thoughts. As soon as you have custom e85 maps for the n55 pwg I'll be contacting you. I'm sick of dealing with the shit gas I have up here. I'll be running an E30 mix
California fuel is shit
Our 91 is more like 87 haha
But really its bad here and the E85 is not the best.
I have been looking into fueling and found that my local indy shop is a Torco dealer and can sell real E85 in containers.
I'm gonna try it out and see how much better it is then at the gas pump
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Had the carys full E85 tune for 1500 miles now runs great. Put down 572whp/578tq with just downpipes.
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Maybe im already asking a question that has been answered but i thought E85 clogs the injectors. Just wondering how long these injectors will last in these cars on these tunes.
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that is a huge improvement in power!!!
nice work!!
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Good ol' corn juice at it again. Awesome job guys!
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What would the hp difference be running 91/93? I have a 18' Zcp and I was thinking to leave the rear section and just swap out the mid pipe and down pipe would that make a big diff? Hp wise ?
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California fuel is shit
Our 91 is more like 87 haha
But really its bad here and the E85 is not the best.
I have been looking into fueling and found that my local indy shop is a Torco dealer and can sell real E85 in containers.
I'm gonna try it out and see how much better it is then at the gas pump
The e85 station off CLinton Keith and Murrieta hot springs both tested within 3% of e85 when I used to frequent them often. No need to pay crazy ass prices for barrell e85.
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great ass numbers..How hard is it to change back to 93 if u run out of e85 and dont have a gas station close by. Do we need to just change the map?
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great ass numbers..How hard is it to change back to 93 if u run out of e85 and dont have a gas station close by. Do we need to just change the map?
YES!
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This particular car wasn't baselined due to already having E85 in the tank. However, there are many instances were I/we have been able to get a baseline and the delta, in some instances, were in excess of 180whp. Type of dyno doesn't matter as much when we're talking about delta (which is what really matters), so keep that in mind.
Delta is what counts. I prefer dynojet numbers when possible for comparison, it's pretty much industry standard.

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great ass numbers..How hard is it to change back to 93 if u run out of e85 and dont have a gas station close by. Do we need to just change the map?
Pretty much it, flashing only takes a few minutes. Always a good idea to run a tank of 91/93 about every 4-5 fill-ups.
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Lool you can see the power falling at 6100rmp due the turbos, with PS2 and 91 octane you make that power to the red line
But you're talking a difference of about $6k - I'd be happy with Cary's tuning for the long run!

Great job Cary!!!!
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Always a good idea to run a tank of 91/93 about every 4-5 fill-ups.
That's a lot more often than I thought. The way I drive, that's under 1,000 miles.
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Lool you can see the power falling at 6100rmp due the turbos, with PS2 and 91 octane you make that power to the red line
But you're talking a difference of about $6k - I'd be happy with Cary's tuning for the long run!

Great job Cary!!!!
Why is 6k ?

Yeah of course he is a good tuner but I'm talking about the stock turbos how they drop after 6000rpm tho,

Also it's hard to find E85 gas around if you go out for trip,

And remember with E30 fuel and PS2 only you make ~640whp to the red line or full E85 with ps2 makes 700+whp #PeakingPowerNotaRealPower
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That's a lot more often than I thought. The way I drive, that's under 1,000 miles.
I usually recommend every 3-5k miles. It certainly won't hurt to do it sooner. I've got multiple customers that have already gone past 3-5k miles on straight E85 and didn't have any issues but did run a full tank of pump fuel as directed and are still running fine. Tom's advice is good for making sure the fuel system is always clean - again, it certainly won't hurt.

My personal M4 has ran a couple tanks of pump gas now and has been on straight E85 for 8 months and on high ethanol mixes for over year and a half. Zero issues, purrs like a kitten and pulls like freight train.
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I used to own Evos in the past and you needed high flow injectors for E85, typically 1100-1300cc for the 2.0 engine.

are we saying the stock F80 injectors have plenty of flow? if so how many CCs?

I just saw E85 for $ 1.99 the other day so I'm ready for this freaking mod!
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The e85 station off CLinton Keith and Murrieta hot springs both tested within 3% of e85 when I used to frequent them often. No need to pay crazy ass prices for barrell e85.
That's good to know
2 years back I tested the one off Hot Springs and it was not that great of a percentage lol
I'll be running it again soon and hopefully is still good
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Pretty sure that is something most member's hope doesn't happen to them.
My friend just got his key'd
Where is that from? I am deathly afraid of it happening to my car to the point I don't even want to drive it, and may even sell it when the lease is up
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CaryTheLabelGuy Don't mean to hijack this thread, any numbers on more aggressive setups since its a Custom Tune correct?

Wondering why the 2 or 3 Customers I've seen have similar numbers & boost yet they're all FBO, curious if any of your customers running a little more than 22psi.
Would a E50-E60 tune provide same/similar gains to your Full E85 ?

Great job btw !!!
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