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      06-16-2015, 01:03 PM   #89
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OP you can go drive a 1M, but warning it is downgrade. Don't listen to poster above, I have also driven both.
lol. i've driven the Cayman S, Cayman GTS, and Cayman R.

the Cayman R was the only other thing i was considering outside of a 1M and the 1M was more enjoyable for my needs; the prices were about the same. It's not a downgrade for sure; just a different type of car. Either way both are more enjoyable than an E9X M3, IMO. I think if NA engines are a priority than the E9X M3 is a great car for that; but just very heavy....
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GT4. If you're going to DD it, prepare to be it a bit more louder and harsh for everyday use.
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      06-16-2015, 01:17 PM   #91
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OP you can go drive a 1M, but warning it is downgrade. Don't listen to poster above, I have also driven both.
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      06-16-2015, 01:36 PM   #92
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OP you can go drive a 1M, but warning it is downgrade. Don't listen to poster above, I have also driven both.
+1, vs. a 981
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      06-16-2015, 01:56 PM   #93
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BRZ or FRS are light, rear wheel drive, low center of gravity, and quick as hell on the track.

The BRZ interior is a pretty nice place to be. May not be everyone's cup of tea though, especially with Subaru engine reliability.

Seen some people thrown on a turbo, BBK, and suspension upgrades on these cars too, but they handle really well in stock form on the track.

Although not light, Ive been in a student's stock 2014 BMW Z4 35is, with dynamic suspension, on stock run flat tires. Car handling, power delivery, and braking was amazing on the track ...
what kind of a recommendation is this
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      06-16-2015, 02:22 PM   #94
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911? Seen a few 2012 C2S's on Craigslist in the ~$70k range, not too far off the price of a new 981
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      06-16-2015, 02:30 PM   #95
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911? Seen a few 2012 C2S's on Craigslist in the ~$70k range, not too far off the price of a new 981
Or 911 991 GTS if it fits your budget. Both the C2S and GTS ride and handle surperbly, both are definitely DD with the GTS having the slight edge on performance.
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      06-16-2015, 02:50 PM   #96
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imo, you buy a 1M to go with the CS, not to replace the CS. you need them both.
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      06-16-2015, 07:31 PM   #97
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what kind of a recommendation is this
The kind you find in a cracker jack box... ;-)

Just speaking out of experience as an instructor at two lapping clubs, if the goal is to get an affordable track car, and decent daily driver. Again OP did not mention much background info on useage pattern, price range, so Im just shooting in the dark here.
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A lotus. Not sure if you can still get newish exiges in Canada still. USA the last model year was 2011. That alfa seems too much of a handful and not as refined from the reviews compared to the Lotus. The 1M seems like a downgrade to me (no offence intended think its overpriced and overhyped).
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      06-17-2015, 06:56 AM   #100
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Well except for:

"This is a sexy, mid-engined Italian exotic carved down to affordable scale, and it's available as a coupe or with a targa top. Powered by a 237-hp turbo four and weighing less than 2500 pounds, its zippy power-to-weight ratio matches its zippy steering ratio; sadly, only a six-speed automatic is available."
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      06-17-2015, 10:06 AM   #101
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Thanks for all the replies and thoughts:

here's a little more info:
my budget is as I said "similar money" so in the 70 to 80k CDN range (this rules out 991's, in Canada the 2012's are still 95-100k)
MUST be manual
it is not a daily driver, but it is my only car so it has to have a level of practicality to it
I will not be tracking the car
I want something with a good 3 years warranty so either new or cpo

I considered the evora before getting my CS, but I liked the CS better

I am contemplating ordering another CS, but it seems kinda boring to get the same car again.

the only other car that has me intrigued is the M2, but I am really a turbo hater, I am very sensitive to lag and can feel it and dislike it even on the newer "virtually no lag" turbos...I drove a m235i and while I liked it overall the lag still annoyed me
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      06-17-2015, 10:11 AM   #102
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Well except for:

"This is a sexy, mid-engined Italian exotic carved down to affordable scale, and it's available as a coupe or with a targa top. Powered by a 237-hp turbo four and weighing less than 2500 pounds, its zippy power-to-weight ratio matches its zippy steering ratio; sadly, only a six-speed automatic is available."
Good point. Being a dyed-in-the-wool butter churner, I change my vote to Cayman GT4.
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      06-17-2015, 10:30 AM   #103
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      06-17-2015, 10:38 AM   #104
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Worth noting that the Alfa pictured is an 8C, not a 4C.
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      06-17-2015, 10:50 AM   #105
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Yessss get a Viper
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Yessss get a Viper
dodge says around $85k usd but you likely won't find one new or used for under $100k.
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      06-17-2015, 12:37 PM   #107
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The kind you find in a cracker jack box... ;-)

Just speaking out of experience as an instructor at two lapping clubs, if the goal is to get an affordable track car, and decent daily driver. Again OP did not mention much background info on useage pattern, price range, so Im just shooting in the dark here.
i'm not doubting your experience. i've heard the brz is a great car, but coming from a cayman s? there's no way he would do that. the power loss alone is an obvious reason.
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Thanks for all the replies and thoughts:

here's a little more info:
my budget is as I said "similar money" so in the 70 to 80k CDN range (this rules out 991's, in Canada the 2012's are still 95-100k)
MUST be manual
it is not a daily driver, but it is my only car so it has to have a level of practicality to it
I will not be tracking the car
I want something with a good 3 years warranty so either new or cpo

I considered the evora before getting my CS, but I liked the CS better

I am contemplating ordering another CS, but it seems kinda boring to get the same car again.

the only other car that has me intrigued is the M2, but I am really a turbo hater, I am very sensitive to lag and can feel it and dislike it even on the newer "virtually no lag" turbos...I drove a m235i and while I liked it overall the lag still annoyed me
With your criteria you are driving the correct car.
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      06-17-2015, 01:35 PM   #109
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dodge says around $85k usd but you likely won't find one new or used for under $100k.
You can if you like red.

http://www.johnjoneschryslerdodgejee...4495c18808.htm

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...91140874&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...90193326&Log=0
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Jag XF-R? Or even the F-type?
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