$2500 Discount Morgan Stanley Reserved

[omaralt]

Originally Posted by jjrandorin

So a ticket is 1500 (meaning you would be going by yourself, not paying for a spouse / significant other)? $100 a night is a pretty budget hotel... what about food?

Even with your costs , you mention it comes out "about the same", which is my point. It does not make sense to do euro delivery "JUST" for the money, which I think was what you said originally. You dont currently lose a "lot" of money doing euro delivery, but back in the day people used to do Euro Delivery, and fly in, take delivery, and drive the car right to the drop off spot and fly back home the next day... because it made financial sense to do so.

It no longer really does, unless the flight to europe is already a sunk cost.

lol ya those estimates are way off. the only way to really save money by doing ED is to go pick up the car and drop it off the same or next day. and this is assuming you can get low priced tickets and time off of work. i also wouldn't want to have a car as i'm traveling through europe. their rail system is so good and their traffic and parking is so bad, i couldn't imagine driving my brand new bmw there. I love BMWs. I love traveling to europe. I dont like the combination

[modkrazy]

Originally Posted by jjrandorin

So a ticket is 1500 (meaning you would be going by yourself, not paying for a spouse / significant other)? $100 a night is a pretty budget hotel... what about food?

Even with your costs , you mention it comes out "about the same", which is my point. It does not make sense to do euro delivery "JUST" for the money, which I think was what you said originally. You dont currently lose a "lot" of money doing euro delivery, but back in the day people used to do Euro Delivery, and fly in, take delivery, and drive the car right to the drop off spot and fly back home the next day... because it made financial sense to do so.

It no longer really does, unless the flight to europe is already a sunk cost.

Maybe because it was off season, but they were 4-star hotels. Not staying in any one place very long, so it's just for sleeping and priority was given to parking arrangements over personal amenities. Food? I guess you don't eat food when you're stateside? Maybe because we go out to eat regularly, it doesn't seem like a significant cost factor.

It's still worth it, considering CCA $500 rebate stacks with European Delivery but not fleet discounts. So you're really looking at a delta of $4000. If you keep your trip within that price-range, you basically just got a "free" European vacation. If you make it a real short trip and spend half of that, you just pocketed $2000 and got a driving experience not available state-side. Even if you go over, that's still a $4000 discount on a European vacation!

Yes it used to make even more sense, but it's still a solid deal IMO. I think maybe this is the American hermit crab mentality. I've lived all over the world, and I think America has the highest percentage of people content to live out their whole lives in whatever podunk town they were spawned in. God bless the USA, I guess.

The waiting for an extra month is a somewhat valid argument, I guess, if you have absolutely no other car and don't get corporate discounts on rentals and absolutely must have the mode of transport.

[drexplode]

Originally Posted by Space gray

Hurry, you have until May 1st.

http://specialadvertising.aarp.org/2...O-LOGIN-ewhere

Thank you!!! I signed up!!

[drexplode]

Originally Posted by Space gray

Hurry, you have until May 1st.

http://specialadvertising.aarp.org/2...O-LOGIN-ewhere

True - the program continues until May 1; however, I believe you have to be a member prior to Feb-21 to use it. Otherwise, no discount. No tickey no washy.

[IS350]

Originally Posted by mdefalco25

I used USAA, which is available to anybody that falls into the following categories: Active, retired and honorably separated officers and enlisted personnel of the U.S. military. Officer candidates in commissioning programs (Academy, ROTC, OCS/OTS). Adult children whose eligible parents have or had a USAA auto or property insurance product.

Additionally, I was not able to utilize my Morgan Stanly benefits, however, I was able to take advantage of the $1000 BMW credit at time I paid for my car. Was $3500 total in savings on my M.

Congrats! Anymore details on that $1,000 credit?

[RyanDe680]

Originally Posted by jxr006

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Pissedconsumer.com
Investmentnews.com "Morgan Stanley head count drops to record low" can't retain talent.
Fool.com: problem with full service brokerage accounts.

The guy who sits next to me who bitches about $100 trades..

I don't understand why would want to invest with a human... if those dudes were that good, they would be running a hedge fund.

Lol. No words.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by omaralt

What keeps me from doing ED is the time. Takes too long to get your car.

I thought that too until I did it, now I can't imagine not doing it - it adds so much to your car remembering cruising the same car through Milan or the Alps or along the riviera ... which is completely an emotional thing but that's the only reason to buy these cars in the first place: because we're all weak emotionally.

[afadeev]

Originally Posted by jjrandorin

Because, unless you are already going to Europe for vacation (or have a bunch of points / miles from business / personal travel to make the trip free), the amount of discount is largely eaten up by travel / hotel costs.

I have not done it (I am considering it sometime but dont vacation in Europe), but I dont think the discount is big enough to go there JUST for the discount.

For the experience + the discount, sure.

I've done ED with my F80.
If you are a travel stud, you can definitely save $$,$$$.xx doing ED. Even if you pay for the airline ticket out of pocket, you can do an in-and-out same day ED, or add a one night stay to check out a few beer pubs.


With 1+ months advance airline ticket shopping, you can find off-season tickets for ~$600, summer for ~$900 from most parts of the US (not 1st class, obviously).

For a $70K F80 build (conservative price tag, can easily push it north of $85K), 5% ED discount == $3.5K. You also save some money on MACO fees (n/a) and better all around deal since dealers who know how ED allocations are handled, will cut far batter deals on ED cars vs. those that cost them allocation slots.

When I did my ED in December of 2014 (7% ED discount), I had saved ~$10K vs. buying a car off the dealer's lot.

One can easily blow those $10K savings (and then some), on a semi-luxurious Euro vacation. But that's entirely up to you. I flew and stayed on points, so you can estimate the bottom line from there...

Originally Posted by omaralt

What keeps me from doing ED is the time. Takes too long to get your car.

The car goes through the same transportation flow as any US-bound car.
It make take an additional few days to get the ED car from the drop-off location to Bremerhaven docks (plus whatever long you drove it in Europe), but otherwise, it's the same time-frame as shipping an individual spec-ed US market car.

YMMV,
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[afadeev]

Originally Posted by omaralt

Here you go boys. I got the $1500 AARP discount and applied for the BMW cca rebate and it got denied.

I can hereby confirm that BMW CCA rebate gets denied (by BMW NA) if you also get fleet discount from your employer or non-profit (AARP, Morgan, or others).

I collected my fleet discount (on an i3) by way of both the $1.5K price reduction, as well as reduced lease MFs. Submitted my CCA rebate (hey, why not).

BMW CCA had confirmed that my CCA rebate paperwork was in order on 3/19, and forwarded it for processing to BMW NA.
On 4/21, I got an email that said BMW NA had denied it. The exact wording: "This vehicle received an Executive Allowance discount. Also known as Corporate Fleet discount. The Membership Rewards Program cannon be used in conjunction with these programs per the terms of conditions of both"

No hard feelings.
Just facts.

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[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by jxr006

I don't understand why would want to invest with a human... if those dudes were that good, they would be running a hedge fund.

As it turns out, the hedge fund dudes aren't that good either.

[IS350]

Hearing the Fleet discount is no longer good on M2s, btw.

[mercedesc63]

Originally Posted by IS350

Hearing the Fleet discount is no longer good on M2s, btw.

+1 and now they have been lowered from 1500 to 500