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      03-12-2020, 11:09 AM   #1079
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Out of curiosity. What happens to a Tesla when it gets into an accident? My neighbor was in a accident a week ago and her model 3 has been sitting outside her house ever since. I felt bad for her, she was maybe 200ft from here house when the accident happened.
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I see. Thank you for the info. I will need to educate myself on stuff like this. Do people just google search and learn about this or is there another way? Sorry for the noob questions.
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don't invest in what you don't know. We saw what happened with bitcoin.

Just FYI though... Tesla stock dropped 50% in the first half of 2019. This year it is making big gains and up about 120% since December.

Hard to say where it will go from here. Tesla is a volatile stock. If a bad earning report comes out next quarter, they get some bad press, or those new factories they are building in china remain closed because of the coronavirus you could lose some money.
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$780.00 at close today. It's only going to grow from here on out. With "Battery Day" coming in April, Model Y production starting, Gigafactory in China close to full swing, plus another Gigafactory in Germany coming later this year./early next year.

Hoping to see the stock skyrocket.
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So what does this mean? A good time to buy? I have zero knowledge on stocks. Fill me in if you can. Thanks!
see what I mean Andrae26? hope you didn't invest at the 800-900s mark back when we talked on 2/3 because now you'd be down 50%.

on the plus side tesla is probably a good buy right now.
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Out of curiosity. What happens to a Tesla when it gets into an accident?
Same thing that happens with any other car - they get fixed at an appropriate, qualified body shop.

That said, there have been reports of shortages of spare body and other parts causing some extended repair times.

I've seen insurance companies sometimes take 7-10 days just to get an adjuster out to see a vehicle - not a Tesla thing - an insurance company/work load thing.
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Out of curiosity. What happens to a Tesla when it gets into an accident?
Same thing that happens with any other car - they get fixed at an appropriate, qualified body shop.

That said, there have been reports of shortages of spare body and other parts causing some extended repair times.

I've seen insurance companies sometimes take 7-10 days just to get an adjuster out to see a vehicle - not a Tesla thing - an insurance company/work load thing.
What I'm trying to say is "the car is sitting at her house" not at copart or a body shop. Is that normal?
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What I'm trying to say is "the car is sitting at her house" not at copart or a body shop. Is that normal?
Hard to say.

Could be a body shop scheduling issue, maybe her insurance delay, maybe she doesn’t have enough insurance or a high out of pocket.

Who. Knows.

In my experience, you get a loaner, you drop the car off, and the main inconvenience is that there’s no auto pilot on the loaner cars.
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Hard to say.

Could be a body shop scheduling issue, maybe her insurance delay, maybe she doesn’t have enough insurance or a high out of pocket.

Who. Knows.

In my experience, you get a loaner, you drop the car off, and the main inconvenience is that there’s no auto pilot on the loaner cars.
Are these body shops exclusively set up for Tesla cars, or are they your typical neighborhood body shop that just happens to be qualified by Tesla?
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Are these body shops exclusively set up for Tesla cars, or are they your typical neighborhood body shop that just happens to be qualified by Tesla?
“Tesla-certified”, such that they’re equipped to repair the aluminum bodywork and unique chassis configuration.
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Cup 2 and track pads now a factory option for model 3
It's not a bad package, though I would rather roll on RE71s than Cup2's.
The only thing from that list that I care to get are the track pads, as none of the major track pad vendors (Pagid, PF, Hawk, etc) carry TM3P pads.
Does anyone know who supplies Tesla with track pads?
Are they available separately?

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Software also getting updated and apparently the key updates are a data logger, 20 stage traction control, ability to change and fix the front / rear awd power bias (including full rwd), turn regen braking off or make it rwd only to help induce lift throttle oversteer
Yep, got that.
Looks cool.
I am still on winter tires, so wont be testing the above until later in the year, but looks cool.

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My $0.02 is too bad there isn’t any camber plates or full coilover option, and there looks to be a $1k markup over aftermarket for those wheels tires and brake pads and fluid. (~20% Tesla tax)
The mark-up isn't bad.
The market for cambered c/o suspension is minuscule, as majority of Tesla owners are ex-Prius/Civic/Leaf refugees.

Model 3 is also remarkably low to the ground as-is. I scrape the crest of my driveway turn with 4 people in the TM3, while the ///M3 clears the same crest just fine.
If I lower TM3 at all, I wont be able to drive it into my garage anymore

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It's not a bad package, though I would rather roll on RE71s than Cup2's.
The only thing from that list that I care to get are the track pads, as none of the major track pad vendors (Pagid, PF, Hawk, etc) carry TM3P pads.
Does anyone know who supplies Tesla with track pads?
Are they available separately?


The mark-up isn't bad.
The market for cambered c/o suspension is minuscule, as majority of Tesla owners are ex-Prius/Civic/Leaf refugees.

Model 3 is also remarkably low to the ground as-is. I scrape the crest of my driveway turn with 4 people in the TM3, while the ///M3 clears the same crest just fine.
If I lower TM3 at all, I wont be able to drive it into my garage anymore

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Model 3 is 4x4 height with a huge wheel gap man.. a GT4 with the top of your foot not able to get under the front splitter is a more appropriate ride height, IMHO

Just my $0.02, regrade your driveway so you can get all out sports cars in there

Aren't we talking about the performance model? that's meant to compete with the F80 M3? I disagree with you on the market for full coilover being small. the manufacturer agrees, give that they sent a model S with fender flares, aggressive splitter and big ducktail spoiler to the 'ring and called it a 'production model'....

By the way, I got a flat yesterday and a road side service came after 30 min with a "loaner tire" to help me get home. And today a Mobile Tire van came to my work and swapped the tire

That high level of service really needs to be in the news alongside the "body shop delays", but it's so much easier for non owners to post negative stuff about the brand!
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Are these body shops exclusively set up for Tesla cars, or are they your typical neighborhood body shop that just happens to be qualified by Tesla?
First hand experience here - my wife's commuter parking lot had bumped the nose of our Model 3, somehow. Minor cosmetic damage, but they found just the right angle to knock front radar offline.

Long story short, this lead to an insurance claim, and a repair experience.
My insurance sent me a list of six (6) local Tesla-certified body shops that could do the work, one was the top-reviewed shop about 10 minutes from me. I took it to Tesla service center (SC) instead, since they give out Model S for loaners, and I gave them a greater chance of uncovering and fixing electronic issues.

Interestingly, Tesla SC had the same total cost as insurance-authorized body shop rates. Their labor rates were 3x that of a body shop, but they did NOT mark-up the price of parts, and the totals were nearly identical. Insurance approved Tesla SC work, they ordered pre-painted body panels (took ~4 weeks to get those in). The car was perfectly derivable, just w/o AutoPilot, which was perfectly fine with me. Once parts arrived, I got another Model S for a loaner (didn't particularly like it, both times), and the job itself was completed in one (1) day.

The bill added up to ~$2.3K to replace the front bumper, under-tray, and radar module; plus labor.

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Insurance approved Tesla SC work, they ordered pre-painted body panels

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Wow. I would gladly pay a premium for factory painted body panels. That's a game changer. There are things Tesla is doing that are clearly superior to what the auto industry has been doing for 100 years.
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Wow. I would gladly pay a premium for factory painted body panels. That's a game changer. There are things Tesla is doing that are clearly superior to what the auto industry has been doing for 100 years.
Have you seen Tesla painted panels though? lol
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Have you seen Tesla painted panels though? lol
Yup, can confirm, paint quality is suspect. Variability is high so good luck getting a match especially if you got red.
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Yup, can confirm, paint quality is suspect. Variability is high so good luck getting a match especially if you got red.
Isn’t it similar to getting Alpine White vs Mineral White on the bmw side? (I got AW on my f80 in part because of the ease of matching, versus going with moonstone)
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My bumpers are a completely different shade of white. It looks to be caused by thin paint on the bumper and you can see black through it. Never had this issue on any of my four bmws but i did have other issues so it all evens out I guess..
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Paint match on my Stealth is good except someone painted the PDC sensors alpine white and not the pearl white.

However, what is really disappointing is the poor fit and finish. After 3 trips to the SC were they able to get ALL the body panels to line up and have fairly even gaps. I have never seen a BMW with this kind of poor quality control so it was quite a shock to buy a brand new Tesla and see such crap QC. Made in America = made like shit I guess. Embarrassing really. If Tesla can up their QC standards a bit they should be able to kill BMW eventually. Not really digging the i4 or the beaver tooth grilles.
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Paint match on my Stealth is good except someone painted the PDC sensors alpine white and not the pearl white.

However, what is really disappointing is the poor fit and finish. After 3 trips to the SC were they able to get ALL the body panels to line up and have fairly even gaps. I have never seen a BMW with this kind of poor quality control so it was quite a shock to buy a brand new Tesla and see such crap QC. Made in America = made like shit I guess. Embarrassing really. If Tesla can up their QC standards a bit they should be able to kill BMW eventually. Not really digging the i4 or the beaver tooth grilles.
Honestly I will take a few panels not lining up over my window seals in my creaking like the car was literally falling apart. Their fix was to lube it every month or two. Guess thats why I lease everything Im scared of owning a car with an issue.
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Honestly I will take a few panels not lining up over my window seals in my creaking like the car was literally falling apart. Their fix was to lube it every month or two. Guess thats why I lease everything Im scared of owning a car with an issue.
Yeah, oddly the car on inside is very very quiet on the Tesla while I hear creaks and groans from my F80. Maybe BMWs are put together too tight? LoL
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Isn’t it similar to getting Alpine White vs Mineral White on the bmw side? (I got AW on my f80 in part because of the ease of matching, versus going with moonstone)
Tesla production standards are not consistent. They are super loose and somewhat insulting for a car that costs in the range of 40-100k.
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Tesla production standards are not consistent. They are super loose and somewhat insulting for a car that costs in the range of 40-100k.
Maybe so but im still loving it though.
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Took down a pure stage 2 335 from a 70-80 roll to 130 mph I gave him a one car head start.

Model 3 is getting quicker up top and we have a update around the corner.


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