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Great, I’m really like this version of the M3 in a way I never did my previous ones. I’ve got about 9000 miles on it already with zero issues and I don’t have to check the oil twice a week anymore.
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My cousin recently bought a f430 spyder after half a year of contemplation and no weekend car so I have some decent insight.
The f430s maintenance cost aren't gonna be cheap and while they have been relatively reliable, they aren't without fault. The biggest concern is the headers and the design issue that comes with the cars being higher: engines have been known to bust because of this issue. So for peace of mind, it'll cost $4k for a reliable replacement and labor. I would make sure you get a PPI with a well known shop. If it's your weekend car, I would take a 430 over a gt4 for sure. |
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I was thinking the same, definitely different strokes for different folks. Some people like low torque high revving engines I guess. Now I'm not looking to change your mind because it seems like you've already made it up but I feel the S55 loves to rev out, and it revs pretty high for a twin turbo 6. In fact, I think the S55 is quite fun to rev out and I have both an S65 and S62 in the garage to compare with. Anyways, my vote goes for an F430. I've had ample seat time in a GT4 and I'm not that impressed, feels like a fast BRZ/FRS. |
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I did get hit (tapped) by an older lady in a beater and was going to go through her insurance, got some quotes and said f'it, I didn't want to get a mark on my carfax. She did one of those rolling stops on a light and hit my bumper leaving a license plate imprint- lol.
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Yeah OP was crying about the possibility of his crank hub slipping and how he'd wished he hadn't tuned it.
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Hi Guys- thanks for all the responses and feedback. Responding to a few of your posts below. Will definitely report back on what I end up purchasing.
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SCH was definitely a fear of mine. I've read the comments and researched enough that I didn't worry about it at all. That didn't have any bearing on my decision to sell and move on. |
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GT4 (or any Cayman, for that matter) is an excellent car.
But a MANUAL F430? Would probably go in that direction... Can't go wrong either way
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My two cents... I had an f80 as my weekend car... I sold it for a 991.2s... why did I sell it?? I felt the m3 was too good of a daily not to daily it.... fast forward a year and I love my 911, drive it 2-3k miles a year but super enjoy it. I am looking at the market to replace my daily suv with a 2016 m3 because I miss the overall utility of the m3...
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There are lots of great cars and there is no perfect car. The best cars balance key characteristics that we enthusiasts love... and sound is definitely important - but it is only one part of the overall equation. The E92 M3 is one of the best sounding and most thrilling cars to redline ever designed. And yet it's also one of the most boring cars to drive in the real world. Point 1 is - the overall package matters much more than singular variables. Anytime someone suggests that the E92 is better than the F80 because it sounds better I just shake my head in disbelief. Point 2 is - I caution you to objectively evaluate the other cars you're considering - put sound aside and take note of their idiosyncrasies (they all have them) and see if they align with your values.... unless sound is all that matters in which case a $35k Mustang GT delivers in spades. Last edited by EricSMG; 01-20-2019 at 12:24 PM.. |
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Op, just wanted to add, what's the biggest one shot bill you would be comfortable eating? My $0.02, you should be willing to eat a $10-$15k bill.
I got hit up for gearbox rebuild, front diff rebuild, engine and gear box mounts, new cup2 tires and major service on my 6TT last year and it's usually a $1k/yr car to maintain and very stout but last year was more like $15k because a lot of stuff came all at once f car would hit wallet just as hard if not harder. |
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First- I never said that the E9X M3 was a "better" car than the F8X. Totally 10000% agree that the F8X is far more capable in every respect than any previous M3. But that being said, the E9X was (and is) a great car and even though it's definitely less capable than an F8X, it was capable enough for me. And I truly miss the sound. Your idea of a "boring" driving car is very different than mine; I think of a Lexus RC-F as a great sounding car, but boring to drive. My F80 is the first car I've ever owned where I've realized that sound is this important to me. Most of the previous ones sounded good to great anyway so I never had to care about it. Quote:
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I encourage u to drive a f430... a few friends have them ... they feel old... in all ways.. and they are not as trouble free as u think .... random issue always come up.
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And, honestly, the ZCP sounds pretty good in Sport+. It's crisp and edgy and just loud enough with a nice midrange shriek. There's no way anyone could think an F8X ZCP sounds like garbage - I just can't see it. Your car must not sound like mine if you hate it that much. Quote:
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