CCB ons used 2020 m4?

[2sporty]

Originally Posted by yami sukehiro

generally heard pre LCIs had some sort of issues, never really dove into the discussion further than than that cause at this point it would almost be a 7-8 YO car anyway

hah, another false sentiment. Not sure where you're getting all of the misinformation.

Earlier years of pre-LCIs have a carbon fiber driveshaft and magnesium oil pan instead of the cost cutting new materials.

[FrankMstein]

In my experience (and from inquiring into others with CCB's) tracking them is not a problem. I have explored and been in conversation with two others on here and FB that track theirs. One had almost 8000k miles of TOTAL TRACK USE and has only changed pads once and the rotors are well above the minimums. Yes I've seen the horror stories and pictures (yes the one corvette) in the threads. I also see and hear horror stories on the CH... Plenty of people track CCB's. I do not take advise from those trying to sell the $teel. Proper cooling and use the CCB's should last a long time on the track. When my rotors wear out I will probably buy someone's used CCB rotors. Probably 11LMBiSTT's CCB's! Yes, I had mine on here for sale for the price of the conversion but can't delete. FWIW I have never driven my CCB's in the rain as I have a beater.

[Humdizzle]

ccbs are fine if you aren't tracking. they will still last a long time on the track too. but i'd probably swap to steelies like the porsche gt3 guys do. just cheaper to do it this way especially when resale value is brought up. no one is going to want a car with ccb near the end of their life. CCBs with good life remaining will give you higher resale as well, not a ton but some.

pre-LCI and LCI are the same thing. Stock LCI guys can still spin their hub and blow their engine. its happened to a few people on this forum.

[Wanted_M]

For CCB tracking I'd consider these, heat kills CCB's.

Pads
https://www.bimmerworld.com/ssearch....:Pagid$2520RSC

Front
https://www.speedengineering.de/prod...2-komplettset/

Rear
https://www.speedengineering.de/prod...bmw-f-serie-m/

[yami sukehiro]

We did it boys, only have to rebadge it which is on the way

[icebiker]

Originally Posted by yami sukehiro

We did it boys, only have to rebadge it which is on the way

Congrats!!! Looks great!!

[M3god]

Originally Posted by yami sukehiro

We did it boys, only have to rebadge it which is on the way

Congrats man nice ride

[FrankMstein]

Originally Posted by Wanted_M

For CCB tracking I'd consider these, heat kills CCB's.

Yep, agree.

Pads
https://www.bimmerworld.com/ssearch....:Pagid$2520RSC

Yep, getting those Pagids next but the price

Front
https://www.speedengineering.de/prod...2-komplettset/

Rear
https://www.speedengineering.de/prod...bmw-f-serie-m/

Not seen these yet. I'm going home made for the ducting off the bottom. Those rear ones look like a possibility. Printed probably takes a few days. I like their 3D scan of the underside. That is genuine 21st century reverse engineering!

[FrankMstein]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

ccbs are fine if you aren't tracking. they will still last a long time on the track too. but i'd probably swap to steelies like the porsche gt3 guys do. just cheaper to do it this way especially when resale value is brought up. no one is going to want a car with ccb near the end of their life. CCBs with good life remaining will give you higher resale as well, not a ton but some.

pre-LCI and LCI are the same thing. Stock LCI guys can still spin their hub and blow their engine. its happened to a few people on this forum.

When I see people spending $3-4000 for just headlights or taillights I guess it's what individuals prefer. I'll just get rotors from someone selling. I may never sell this car, may never. I made the statement "never buy a BMW w/o a warranty" so I have one...

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by yami sukehiro

We did it boys, only have to rebadge it which is on the way

Rebadge? You mean slap on the 340i emblem? Jokes aside, congrats.

[bigj505]

Originally Posted by yami sukehiro

We did it boys, only have to rebadge it which is on the way

Congrats. Don't forget to get the black trunk badge not the chrome.

[bsmf8x]

They're harder to resell and hurt the value

[Blocke]

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

They're harder to resell and hurt the value

What are basing this off of? Did you own a CCB equipped car that you had issues selling?

[bsmf8x]

Originally Posted by Blocke

What are basing this off of? Did you own a CCB equipped car that you had issues selling?

No I just spent years looking at the used f80 market daily before I got mine. Maybe times have changed but 2017-2020 I remember seeing CCB cars stay listed for way longer and always had by far, the lower prices.

[IB M]

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

No I just spent years looking at the used f80 market daily before I got mine. Maybe times have changed but 2017-2020 I remember seeing CCB cars stay listed for way longer and always had by far, the lower prices.

Probably they were performance center m-school cars and hence the low price. I've never seen a clean non tracked f80 with CCBs sell at a discount.

[Blocke]

Originally Posted by IB M

Probably they were performance center m-school cars and hence the low price. I've never seen a clean non tracked f80 with CCBs sell at a discount.

Second that. I jumped on my car because it had CCBs and the dealer didn’t know what they had. I think my deal was rare, but most good condition CCB cars I’ve seen are not going for a discount. Observed this with M5s as well, as I was shopping those at the same time.
Even if you had some major issue with the rotors, it’s not that big of a deal anymore. A full M2C steel brake swap is ~$2k nowadays.
I can see how they would be a big risk early in 2015-2018, but now with cheap swap options I don’t see the downside.

[MJBO]

Originally Posted by yami sukehiro

generally heard pre LCIs had some sort of issues, never really dove into the discussion further than than that cause at this point it would almost be a 7-8 YO car anyway

Sounds like a whole lotta nonsense with no facts to me.

[FrankMstein]

Originally Posted by Blocke

A full M2C steel brake swap is ~$2k nowadays.

Please show me the link to a $2k steel conversion.

[Blocke]

Originally Posted by FrankMstein

Please show me the link to a $2k steel conversion.

Your right, I forgot pads were needed. So $3k ish. Still well below the cost of replacing a single CCB rotor.

[FrankMstein]

Originally Posted by Blocke

Your right, I forgot pads were needed. So $3k ish. Still well below the cost of replacing a single CCB rotor.

Unless you find some ~50k mile units bimmerpost or FB...they are the same price usually. That's the plan.