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If you plug your VIN into Google you might get some images of the wreck (if there was one). I have done this before for vehicles I was interesting in purchasing. You'll be surprised with what you will find sometimes.
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I am speechless at the situation you're in OP. I really hope Carfax fk'd up because this ain't right.
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For the OP, one relatively easy way to tell if there were any major damage, to include frame damage, is to look for new parts with the BMW stickers still on them. Factory installed parts don't usually have them. Kies Motorsports recently did a video on this very topic as the used M3 they just purchased also had some pre-purchase undiscovered damage which was discovered post purchase by noticing some minor parts misalignment and stickers on newly installed replacement parts. Good luck.
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I agree, it there really is nobody to blame. If it wasn't reported until 4 years after the fact, who's fault is it? Maybe mine for not having PPI done? |
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I've seen this happen maybe every month or so from customers who buy cars. Normally it takes carfax/autocheck about 6-12 months to report an accident on a history report... 4 years is pushing it.
In most situations carfax wont remove the record.. they have the mindset of "we're carfax and we're the experts" and unless you have are the original owner or have some kind of proof its never been wrecked it most likely wont come off. Having said all that 4 years is a long time to report an accident. was there a police report listed with the accident? If so you can obtain a copy of the report and verify the vin matches. Otherwise there's a decent chance the car has been in an accident prior to you owning the car. It's really no ones fault in this case and you dont have any recourse.. maybe a PPI in the future? You might also be surprised at how minor an accident can be to kink a frame rail or cause structural damage.
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All the Carfax says it an accident with structural damage was reported February 10, 2016 and was visible on Carfax on January 28th, 2020. I know it's nobody's fault, but if there is frame damage, maybe the dealership I bought it from will work me on something so I am not out all of this money. That might be wishful thinking. |
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If they do anything It will be good will in an attempt to earn future business. Let us know what the shop finds!
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OP bought the car in August 19 not 4 years ago.
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usually the shop it got fixed at doesn't report to carfax till later on.
That's why i always tell people stop relying on just carfax. Carfax doesnt mean S$%^ autocheck is way more accurate
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Sorry about that! Accident was 4 years ago vs buying it in Aug.
I got curious and decided to look if you posted any pics of your car... in one pic the front bumper shade looks slightly off vs the hood so id start there.. very difficult to tell on a dark car online though lol.
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OP, if you'er reading this your best course of action is going back to dealership, they failed to disclose or detect the damage. |
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doesn't always happen that way. I've seen accidents hit 18+ months later. 4 years is new to me though.
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Oh so you knew there was an accident on the car prior? Most likely the quarter has been replaced, or the floorpan in the rear was badly damaged (if it has structural damage)
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This is really troubling! I had a car that had a panel keyed and when I went to trade it in they said it had been in an accident. Carfax can rally screw you over.
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I went to the body shop earlier and there is definitely NOT any structural or frame damage. What they did say is they can tell the passengers side rear quarter panel has been painted along with the passengers rear door. The structural integrity of the car itself had not been compromised at all as none of the bolts had been removed or tampered with. They went as far as to say they could tell the quarter panel and door weren't even removed from the car when they were painted.
So that is good news. Now I have to figure out how to get this fixed with Carfax. The problem I am facing now is that I don't know where the car was fixed so I cannot ask them to update their filing with Carfax. |
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