BMW F80 M3 and F82 M4 Powered by More Than 425 HP

[Zeiss]

I think the power specs are more than sufficient with this new chassis setup. This will be one astonishing track car, a force to be reckoned with. Major leap for bmw here

[Daft]

Didn't anyone read the original post? It says to be powered by MORE THAN 425hp.

[markeh]

Originally Posted by Daft

Didn't anyone read the original post? It says to be powered by MORE THAN 425hp.

At first it said 425hp and more than 370 tq
Now everyone is on their tippy toes

[Technic]

Originally Posted by Daft

Didn't anyone read the original post? It says to be powered by MORE THAN 425hp.

It was magically changed to "more than 425hp" in the last few hours.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Technic

It was magically changed to "more than 425hp" in the last few hours.

Yup But not much more.

[JTO24]

Originally Posted by PhillyNate

3250 lbs would be the equivalent of Viagra.

This

[SomeRandomer123]

Originally Posted by Moo

Weight?

A body's relative mass or the quantity of matter contained by it, giving rise to a downward force; the heaviness of a person or thing.

[aus]

Originally Posted by BNR32

I think the power specs are more than sufficient with this new chassis setup. This will be one astonishing track car, a force to be reckoned with. Major leap for bmw here

You're assuming it won't overheat at the track...
I'm hoping BMW has figured out to test this car in 100 degress for at least 30 minute sessions.

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[JRV]

Originally Posted by Ezio

first time i have seen such small gains for next generation car.

the torque gains are there, hp gains are not. BUT its a sign that the horse power war is coming to a end possibility.

overall it really depends on what the competition does that will make this car desirable or not. if everyone switchs to more eco 6s than maybe this will work for me.

YES EXACTLY! These newer cars were built with cost and green on the top of their list. Let's get real here, if those 2 weren't much of a concern, we would have a bigger power improvement/difference. This is not a negative comment but just reality. With that said, I am hoping it will weigh in the area of 3450 lbs along with that huge improvement in torque, because that will translate into real power compared to the 3726 and less torque. Will wait a year or two before making a move because to this day I still make any excuse to take the M for a drive, so I'm still in love. Weight is a big factor for me with this upcoming model.

Good Intel says:
435HP
Target weight less than 3300
Book it!

[markeh]

All manufacturers are gonna have to adapt to this new engine style. I pre-ordered by M4 today and was talking to the guy advisor and he said by 2025 all manufacturers are required to have an MPG average of 54.5 or something similar to that figure. Seems ridiculous to me.
This is the same reason Aston Martin built a smartcar thats literally branded with an AM logo, the cynget or whatever. By the looks of it, all the dynamics expected from an M car put with these hp and tq figures, I see no reason to complain.

[aus]

Originally Posted by Jason

You will be very pleasantly surprised to be wrong.

Now I'm interested to hear how BMW lost the weight?
Under 3,450 would be nice, but closer to 3,250 would be pretty impressive.

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[lightyear36]

Originally Posted by Daft

Didn't anyone read the original post? It says to be powered by MORE THAN 425hp.

Which means 426hp? Usually when someone says, for example, "among top 5", he or she means the 5th position :-)

[khanyam4]

Can't wait for the weigh in tomorrow afternoon.

[turbolag]

Originally Posted by Carlos_Danger

Yes they do, but with M Cars only, you own an Z4

Continue with the misinformation sir, continue.

Actually, yet so far, the N54 in the 1M and the S63 in yor car are the only M engines underrated.

N54, N55, N20, N26, N63, N47, N57, etc. are all underrated.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by aus

Now I'm interested to hear how BMW lost the weight?

We will share lots of weight saving details.

[FogCityM3]

Wow...disappointment to excitement..what an emotional roller coaster! You guys are killing us!

[ASAP]

435 Hp
3300-3400 Lbs

[FogCityM3]

429hp * 7.8 lbs/hp = 3,346 lbs?

[aus]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

RS5 is a pig at over 4,000 lb.; more than negates the extra 25 hp. And, it only has 317 lb. ft. Tq.

You put the order in yet?
You know you're going to get one.

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[R N M]

Originally Posted by Jason

Yup But not much more.

I'm not sure why the HP # is so small for the M3/M4 compared to M5/M6????

Past 2 Generations it was much less of a disparity:

E46 M3 = 333hp/269tq
E39 M5 = 400hp/369tq
Difference of 67hp

E90/92 M3 = 414hp/295tq
E60 M5 = 500hp/383tq
Difference of 86hp

F80/82 M3/4 = 425hp/370tq
F10 M5 = 560-575hp/502tq
Difference of 125+hp

[JulieDriving]

Originally Posted by piloto

Lets give them credit. They know where MBZ will be with the next C63, as well as Audi with the RS5. They'll be well prepared. At the end of the day, the power figures only mean so much. It's the performance, and the driving experience that will matter. I'd much rather it have "only" 425 HP, but have great steering feel and precision, and controlled body movement, which are more BMW M hallmarks than max HP is.

[Lorde]

Originally Posted by R N M

I'm not sure why the HP # is so small for the M3/M4 compared to M5/M6????

Past 2 Generations it was much less of a disparity:

E46 M3 = 333hp/269tq
E39 M5 = 400hp/369tq
Difference of 67hp

E90/92 M3 = 414hp/295tq
E60 M5 = 500hp/383tq
Difference of 86hp

F80/82 M3/4 = 425hp/370tq
F10 M5 = 560-575hp/502tq
Difference of 125+hp

Might want to look at the price and weight gaps in that analysis as well.