U.S. 2015 BMW M3 and M4 Coupe Pricing Guide

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Isn't the LCI coming for 2016 MY?

Maybe for the standard F 3/4 models but doubtful for the M editions coming out this year. At least thats my opinion.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Maybe for the standard F 3/4 models but doubtful for the M editions coming out this year. At least thats my opinion.

Look what they did on the M5. 2013 was released, 2014 was the LCI for standard F10's and the M5 got the LCI treatment....new turn signals, new wheel, updated taillights and grille, LED headlights.

I wouldn't bet against it.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Look what they did on the M5. 2013 was released, 2014 was the LCI for standard F10's and the M5 got the LCI treatment....new turn signals, new wheel, updated taillights and grille, LED headlights.

I wouldn't bet against it.

I guess we will see but I would put money on it being at least the 2017 model.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Maybe for the standard F 3/4 models but doubtful for the M editions coming out this year. At least thats my opinion.

But remember, 3 and 4 series had different launch dates so their LCIs will also be staggered by roughly the same amount.

Regarding M vehicles, they have always got their LCI at the same time as the series counterparts. So the F80 is indeed likely to get the LCI next year with the F30.

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Isn't the LCI coming for 2016 MY?

Prevailing opinion suggests The F30/F80 LCI will come in 2015 calendar year as an MY2016, yes. Of course, nothing is officially known yet.

But he didn't say that would be the first year of the LCI, right? He was just saying that that's when he would purchase.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by dmk08

I guess we will see but I would put money on it being at least the 2017 model.

We will see in a year.

[Technic]

Do you really believe that the F80/F82 will sell more than the E9X M3?

Although I do think that the economy have improved somewhat from 2008, the M3 sales have not -and this version is more expensive than before even with more standard equipment. Other than the F10, F30 and E70, every other BMW model have been slow selling from their respectives get go. The 4-Series lasted a whopping 2 months before it got the hell out of the dealer allocations for ED -opening the door for "invoice plus" sales- and can be had for close to invoice at local dealers. The new F15 is selling already at "invoice plus" -a coworker of mine just got one for $765 over and no dealer fees and that is in South Florida, the kingdom of dealer fees. The M235i is not even at dealer lots and there is already a lease deal on them -by June at the most it will be out of dealer allocations for ED as well.

The number of leftover new M5/M6/X5/X6M in the dealers in my area are simply absurd.

I do not expect anything different with the M3/M4 demand. Not because of anything bad inherent with it, but because the economy -and the incentives offered because of that- really changed everything at this price bracket.

Even Chevrolet said the same thing about Corvette sales -it went from an average of 30,000 units a year to about 16,000 anually for the last 3, just before the Stingray. That's the reason that they are talking about a cheaper base Corvette (non-Stingray) way below $50,000.

I bet that we will see plenty of M3/M4 for the first 2 months at the dealer lots and then right after that we will see only customer-sold cars. Exactly like the last 3 years of the E9X M3.

Originally Posted by mkoesel

The problem I have with waiting is that we don't know if invoice-plus deals will be a given by then either. It all depends on how much demand there is.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

But remember, 3 and 4 series had different launch dates so their LCIs will also be staggered by roughly the same amount.

Regarding M vehicles, they have always got their LCI at the same time as the series counterparts. So the F80 is indeed likely to get the LCI next year with the F30.



Prevailing opinion suggests The F30/F80 LCI will come in 2015 calendar year as an MY2016, yes. Of course, nothing is officially known yet.

But he didn't say that would be the first year of the LCI, right? He was just saying that that's when he would purchase.

Is that true? I was under the impression the M never got the LCI headlights the 11+ standard e92 got. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Technic]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Isn't the LCI coming for 2016 MY?

Yes, but I'm not getting a MY2016 because that will be early next year. I'm buying at calendar year 2016, or two years from now.

[BitchinManWheels]

No Active Cruise Control? Just Dynamic? The ACC is great when you are not the only car on the road!

[signes]

Originally Posted by Technic

- Nav is standard but $500 for 6NS. In the F30, 6NS is part of the Nav.
- Executive Package mixes Premium, Driver and Cold Packages in one, like it or not, making this package more expensive than picking and choosing which one fits the budget and the purpose.
- The "Full" Leather gives leather-covered top of the dash and the top of the doors in exchange of removing the leather on the center console sides and top (compared with the old "Extended" leather in the E9X M3) for an additional $1600. The $3600 option now is as expensive as the old Individual interior in the E9X M3, so the expectation is that Individual would be much more expensive than that now.
- No Jet Black, so the only dark color is optional at $550. Anything else would be Individual. Again

Big +1 on these points. So much hinges on the Exec Package it is absurd. I don't see getting full leather, never personally felt the benefit but agree that it is a step backwards.

After 10 years of JB M3's not having that great no-cost color option is a bummer. Was planning getting a color this time but those are shit for the most part this time around. Even though we have known for a while, no red or "normal" blue is annoying.

[signes]

Originally Posted by Technic

OP was comparing the F80 M3 with the 2008 E90 M3.

Other F80 M3 standard equipment that was not present in the 2008 M3 is - BMW Assist (now for 10 years vs. 4 years option in 2008).

Correct, thanks guys for additions and corrections. Was just comparing E90 at launch/1st model year (mine) to the F80 at launch. A lot more things standard, which is nice but then you wind up with a lot more bundling at the expense of flexibility.

Forgot about Apps and didn't really know what "Dynamic" CC was for sure. I've never used CC on any car so don't really care.

[Swancoat]

Originally Posted by //M sa

Unless I am reading it wrong, the rear sun shades are plus 350 if you go full leather.

Yeah, I think you're right. So just the $750 over then.

[mpower3330]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Look what they did on the M5. 2013 was released, 2014 was the LCI for standard F10's and the M5 got the LCI treatment....new turn signals, new wheel, updated taillights and grille, LED headlights.

I wouldn't bet against it.

I would bet that MY2016 will be an LCI update. Look at the 2nd MY M5s, the 2nd MY E90 M3. The good news is that tail lights can be changed, as well as grilles, unless they change the shape of course (which has only happened once with an M LCI, the e90 M3 and that was because the pre LCI were hideous). Thoughts?

[Ali.K_BMW]

Originally Posted by mpower3330

I would bet that MY2016 will be an LCI update. Look at the 2nd MY M5s, the 2nd MY E90 M3. The good news is that tail lights can be changed, as well as grilles, unless they change the shape of course (which has only happened once with an M LCI, the e90 M3 and that was because the pre LCI were hideous). Thoughts?

Most likely a MY2017 for the LCI

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Is that true? I was under the impression the M never got the LCI headlights the 11+ standard e92 got. Maybe I'm wrong.

Right, the M3s didn't get the headlights (nor did the previous generation, incidentally). But they did get the respective LCI tail lights and any other LCI content for that matter.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by NewM3driver

Smart money never buys or leases ANY BMW at the very beginning of the model.

Smart money doesn't spend on cars period. This is a hobby I blew 20k+ getting to enjoy the m5 for a few months, and while it doesn't seem worth it now, who really cares its just money.

[ADRQ0811]

Why is it that when I build my order I want every option that is one the order guide haha

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

The amount of pissing and moaning in this thread is highly amusing.

I mean I understand it the exec. package for the m5 wasn't that much... Not to mention I'm betting they knew 99% of people would opt to get CA/HUD standalone vs. spending on that package.

Thats about the only cost I didn't foresee was it that much more than the m5 exec.


*correction I just looked apparently exec. package was 5500 lol but it really does include way more, even if most of the stuff is meaningless (vent/active seats I've only used a handful of times, soft close/power tail I love)


Base $64,200
Yas Marina Blue Metallic $550
Executive Package $4,000
Lighting Package $1,900
DCT $2,900
Adaptive M $1,000
19" Black $1,200
Hk sound $875
Side top view $750
Handling Charge $925

Thats me.. Honestly the DAP is great to try and I think a lot of people would enjoy it, but not sure its actually necessary, bold is about the only musts at least from what I've had on the m5.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Technic

Do you really believe that the F80/F82 will sell more than the E9X M3?

Not necessarily, no, although I think it could happen. You make some fair points, and while I may not fully agree, I don't feel too strongly and I don't really want to debate it here (I can separate it into a new thread, though, if others want to discuss it).

But either way, I don't know that I want to wait around very long to see how it plays out. The F80 is already nearing mid-life. I want to have the car and enjoy it while it's still fresh, and I personally don't need to have the LCI tail lights, ZCP, or coming updates. I've lived without all of that for the past 5+ years with my 2008 E93 M3. Or, if I do find something I really think I need, I will retrofit.

The only thing that would make me feel completely comfortable with waiting right now would be a guarantee that ED cars will not be coming from allocation before end of summer next year. Then I'd wait for sure.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Not necessarily, no, although I think it could happen. You make some fair points, and while I may not fully agree, I don't feel too strongly and I don't really want to debate it here (I can separate it into a new thread, though, if others want to discuss it).

But either way, I don't know that I want to wait around very long to see how it plays out. The F80 is already nearing mid-life. I want to have the car and enjoy it while it's still fresh, and I personally don't need to have the LCI tail lights, ZCP, or coming updates. I've lived without all of that for the past 5+ years with my 2008 E93 M3. Or, if I do find something I really think I need, I will retrofit.

The only thing that would make me feel completely comfortable with waiting right now would be a guarantee that ED cars will not be coming from allocation before end of summer next year. Then I'd wait for sure.

You state a lot of reasons why I'm so down to pull the trigger now as well. I don't want to buy the car in 2-3 years and the g model is already about to come out.

I'm getting standard suspension and 18s. Gonna create my own ZCP w/ KW V3 and HRE

[ValeYellow46]

So it is a bit odd that this is the only 2014/15 BMW in which getting navigation doesn't automatically get you streaming bluetooth. Heck, an X1 with nav allows you to stream music. I don't understand the thinking behind that one? As others had mentioned, I feel that HUD is a must in my build but I could care less about anything else in the ZEC so I will likely not go for it now which is a bummer.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by ValeYellow46

As others had mentioned, I feel that HUD is a must in my build but I could care less about anything else in the ZEC so I will likely not go for it now which is a bummer.

I think a lot of people will enjoy it especially the M mode hud vs. standard if thats the one we're all getting.