Bimmerworld GT-More

[RugbyBro]

Not a massive track guy (yet) but this series looks awesome and it will be super cool to see where they push the platform! I would post this in the photos/video thread but since this is mainly a track car build it would probably get more love here

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Gridlife

PHD Racing Overview

Buttonwillow w/ Bimmer Challenge

GTMore vs GT4: The Finale

[irunalot]

I have watched a few of the videos already. I'll be watching, very interested to see how this build progresses.

[SYT_Shadow]

This is super, super exciting!! Go Bimmerworld!!

I can't wait to see where this goes, ///M Power

[sly1types]

awesome! i'm excited to see what they come up with

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

This is super, super exciting!! Go Bimmerworld!!

You know I've seen you talk about James Clay a lot but never made the connection that he's Bimmerworld James Clay until very recently

[SYT_Shadow]

This project will help take the F8X to the next level, and we won't need to wait until the platform is 100 years old to have a great template

[kevin_at_BW]

We are REALLY excited for this project and bringing the F8x community a lot of real world data to go along with our choices in parts while developing the M4 "GTMore". The build has just begun, but we haven't wasted much time getting started and digging into it.

[jim1013yyf]

Stoked to see! I've been wondering if there is an US-equivalent of team Schirmer, maybe this is the answer.

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by jim1013yyf

Stoked to see! I've been wondering if there is an US-equivalent of team Schirmer, maybe this is the answer.

Exactly. And all right here in our back yard

[shaddy]

Originally Posted by jim1013yyf

Stoked to see! I've been wondering if there is an US-equivalent of team Schirmer, maybe this is the answer.

Hell yeah! Team Schirmer has some great builds. Ideal balance of form/function in my eyes. Look forward to what Bimmerworld does!

[jim1013yyf]

Originally Posted by shaddy

Hell yeah! Team Schirmer has some great builds. Ideal balance of form/function in my eyes. Look forward to what Bimmerworld does!

They definitely do! But their parts all come with hefty price tags (such as the US$1000 brake cooling kit)...hopefully BW can come up with more track focus improvements for this platform.

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by jim1013yyf

They definitely do! But their parts all come with hefty price tags (such as the US$1000 brake cooling kit)...hopefully BW can come up with more track focus improvements for this platform.

Modding in Europe comes at great cost, as you cannot legally run the most basic things like wheel spacers.
It is literally illegal to run spacers, or wheels with offsets over a certain amount over stock, or a BBK, or suspension that is height adjustable, etc etc etc.

Anyhow, I am sure the Bimmerworld project will be much more feasible for normal humans.

[jim1013yyf]

Originally Posted by kevin_at_BW

We are REALLY excited for this project and bringing the F8x community a lot of real world data to go along with our choices in parts while developing the M4 "GTMore". The build has just begun, but we haven't wasted much time getting started and digging into it.

Originally Posted by kevin_at_BW

We are REALLY excited for this project and bringing the F8x community a lot of real world data to go along with our choices in parts while developing the M4 "GTMore". The build has just begun, but we haven't wasted much time getting started and digging into it.

Talked with Henry a few weeks back regarding the brake cooling plates for f8x. This car desperately needs some proper brake cooling - plz plz make it happen 😎😎

[jim1013yyf]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

Modding in Europe comes at great cost, as you cannot legally run the most basic things like wheel spacers.
It is literally illegal to run spacers, or wheels with offsets over a certain amount over stock, or a BBK, or suspension that is height adjustable, etc etc etc.

Anyhow, I am sure the Bimmerworld project will be much more feasible for normal humans.

That makes sense. Their testing/compliance/legal cost probably far exceeds the engineering cost.

[RugbyBro]

New episode up in OP - about oil/fluids

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

New episode up in OP - about oil/fluids

Sweet! Thanks for the update!

I use that oil and have the redline dct fluid at home waiting to go into the car!

[RugbyBro]

New episode up in OP!

[stevehifi]

Originally Posted by jim1013yyf

They definitely do! But their parts all come with hefty price tags (such as the US$1000 brake cooling kit)...hopefully BW can come up with more track focus improvements for this platform.

The team schirmer part costs are very reasonable considering that they make some of the fastest cars on the nurburgring (e36, e46, e92, f8x). These parts are engineering by Tom and his company and customized to the platform. Then they are flogged on a track countless times and real results shown.

Looking forward to BW to show a well thought out kit with some customizations for the f8x platform and some analysis to back it up.

[m4forum]

I really like the energy and enthusiasm M cars get from the vendors. it makes our experience better and sometimes faster.

I am just cautions to distinguish when some updates bring a real benefit or just a "sales speech". For the engine oil, coolant, diff oil and transmission I am very skeptical to accept RedLine has a better product than OEM. Not because RedLine dont have good products ... they actually have good stuff which I have already used in a different non standard application but because it is not just that simple.
Developing an oil solution is not that simple and involves a lot but a lot of resources and testing which includes running engines in a dyno, running vehicles on the road/track, temperature chambers, component tear down, wear analysis, noise analysis, ..... I really dont believe any aftermarket company would have those resources to deploy on this type of project and even if they do there isn't a business case because the revenue the products would bring is limited to car enthusiastic like us in comparison with the OEM supplier.

I really dont see the benefit/problem solving a new oil/fluid can bring as advantage to this platform but in really it can be risky and expensive if something goes south.

Please keep bringing improvements but at no risk!

[jim1013yyf]

Originally Posted by stevehifi

The team schirmer part costs are very reasonable considering that they make some of the fastest cars on the nurburgring (e36, e46, e92, f8x). These parts are engineering by Tom and his company and customized to the platform. Then they are flogged on a track countless times and real results shown.

Looking forward to BW to show a well thought out kit with some customizations for the f8x platform and some analysis to back it up.

Originally Posted by stevehifi

The team schirmer part costs are very reasonable considering that they make some of the fastest cars on the nurburgring (e36, e46, e92, f8x). These parts are engineering by Tom and his company and customized to the platform. Then they are flogged on a track countless times and real results shown.

Looking forward to BW to show a well thought out kit with some customizations for the f8x platform and some analysis to back it up.

I get the r&d cost and compliance certificate cost in Germany. But developing brake cooling isn't high tech / complex engineering task.

[stevehifi]

Originally Posted by jim1013yyf

I get the r&d cost and compliance certificate cost in Germany. But developing brake cooling isn't high tech / complex engineering task.

Of course it is.

There is alot of R&D put into these parts. You need to understands things like where the best high pressure area is on the front of the car, the air volume and pressure you need to transmit to the backing plate, the resilience of the backing plate itself, material properties under temperature variation. And all of this has to meet strict TUV guidelines with pages of reports.

I don't know about you, but I would feel more comfortable paying the money for something that's been proven under the most rigorous conditions then buy some cheap hack of a solution that would probably fail and cause catastrophic failures at excessive track speeds on your $70k F8x.

[sc_tr0jan_m3]

A simple example... Vorshlag developed these brake deflectors for a few platforms. Just a little aluminum with some smart thinking and there ya go. Effective and very reasonable costs. I run these on my E46 and have noticed great improvement even in the awful Texas summer heat.