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Damn, you must have a real special S55 w/ a #7 cylinder, jk I'm sure you meant the last hole.
So is the dealer saying you threw the car into a lower gear while doing 150MPH and went deep into the red? At that speed I'm sure you were already in 6th and you wouldn't need to downshift till you approached the next corner. |
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I have no idea how the S55 works but this is common on the S2000 w/ a money shift / mechanical over-rev. |
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The thing is, after reviewing the video, I didn't downshift from 5th after the straight. I remained in 5.
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At what point did you rev past 7700? I'm sure you would've noticed the rpm needle bang off the limiter
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The only time I remember hitting the limiter was coming out of a corner in 2nd much earlier in the day.
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08-07-2015, 04:05 PM | #31 |
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I did not money shift.
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Seems way sketch. Good luck with everything man. Regardless of situation, this is terrible.
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152mph seems to fit a mild over-rev in 5th gear from my experience.
I did a 1/2 mile airstrip event last year in my 6MT M4 and was finishing each race in 5th gear very near redline. My trap speeds were in the 142-145mph range. I remember thinking I was glad the races weren't any longer since I was close to having to shift to 6th. You sure you weren't in 6th and downshifted to 5th a little too soon while at the "driving school"? What track was this at? There are very few road courses in the U.S. that an F8X is going to reach those speeds.
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Did BMW already tell you that you are 100% at fault?
I'm pretty sure your insurance company won't cover for an engine malfunction especially because it occurred while you were redlining it driving it at a track. If you were on the street redlining and you nailed a boulder then yeah, sure but that wasn't the case. I wouldn't show them the GoPro footage at all if I were you. |
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The forum is not going to determine that for you. Your dealer and BMW need to decide your fate.
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If you have video and always had the car in gear, I would fight BMW on this. Furthermore an over rev of only 150 rpm should not lead to catastrophic engine failure in a car like this. There should be a small margin of safety with the factory redline. Similar to when shopping for a used Porsche GT3, its OK to buy one with level 1 and 2 overrevs, but any that have level 3 or higher should be passed over.
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Gather evidence. Present your case.
Video evidence, evidence of untimed HPDE, time between slight over rev and engine failure. Do as much as you can yourself, lawyer last resort. Gotta run, but good luck to you.
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I'm sorry, 150+ for any number of minutes doesn't seem that big of a deal to me for a car that was designed and built in the country that has the Autobahn, so I think they have no argument there. The car may have been at 152 and a lot of rpms at some point (whose hasn't ) but if you have a video showing the failure occurring at another speed / rpm that would seem like enough to put the burden of proof back in their court.
Manufacturers will do everything to avoid paying a major claim, just like an insurance company. If you're sure you're in the right, get a lawyer. Hopefully one letter with the video will settle things. Even if it isn't an exclusion now, I'd stay away from submitting a claim with the insurance company until it becomes a last resort. Once they know you track the car they'll require you either stop tracking the car or cancel you. Or at least that's what I hear from the internet.... Good luck.
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Your link to the first incident does not appear to be working. Did that require a new engine as well? Are you sure the engine you received was new or used? If used, then how could they determine you were the culprit?
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