S55 Engine and Electronics in an 1988 E30 - Technical Video Reviews inside!

hellrotm · 11-05-2018, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pheerIx

Upsets the weight balance am I right.

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Originally Posted by Studntloan

Not any worse then a s52 or s54 swap...

car will drive just fine weight wise.

S55 and S65 both weighs less than S54. Balance will be no more changed than the numerous S54 swap E30’s out there.

Studntloan · 11-05-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hellrotm

The S55 weighs less than a S65, which weighs less than S54. Balance will be no more changed than the numerous S54 swap E30’s out there.

I think the s65 is actually lighter? maybe im wrong,

But I agree, I come from swapped e30 m3s, I have a stock one now and cant wait to swap that bay out as well

hellrotm · 11-05-2018, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Studntloan

I think the s65 is actually lighter? maybe im wrong,

But I agree, I come from swapped e30 m3s, I have a stock one now and cant wait to swap that bay out as well

Yes, you are correct. Did some form digging, S54 212kg, S55 205kg, S65 202kg...complete cooling and plumbing.

Brake_Late · 11-05-2018, 01:59 PM

Apologies OP

154kg without Alpha N box or mods etc...

http://mywikimotors.com/bmw-s50b32/

~ 149kg is S54 standard weight ( non CSL ) mid production range.

http://mywikimotors.com/bmw-s54/

Non M twin turbo 335si era N54:
( all aluminum and forged , block up ) 145~kg LIGHTEST !!! )

http://mywikimotors.com/n54b30/

S55 and S65:
( really almost a nominal difference )
Slight advantage to S55:

Still, hefty tho at 212kg for the V8
and 205kg for the twin

thank god for the reliable 500hp to compensate and thus..
carry its own. These two motors would require some serious suspension to offset the much larger weight gap from some of these other swap ideas.

Stock S14 is: ~ 106kg
for reference point to stock engine weight.

https://www.motor-talk.de/forum/akti...hmentId=730180

Brake_Late · 11-05-2018, 03:00 PM

Check out this hefty BEAST:

S70/2
Used in McLaren F1 (Was originally developed for M8)
Type 6.1 liter, 48 valve V-12 with aluminum block and heads, 627 bhp
Bore and stroke 3.38 x 3.41 in (86 x 87 mm)
Weight 266Kg
Displacement 370 cubic in, 6064 cc
Compression ratio 10.5:1
Engine control system Bosch Motronic with port fuel injection
Emissions controls 3-way catalytic converter feedback fuel-air-ratio control auxiliary air pump
Valve gear Chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder, hydraulic lifters, variable intake timing Solid
Lifter Valvetrain with Single VANOS and Individual Throttle Bodies
Power (SAE net) 618 bhp @ 7400 rpm
Torque (SAE net) 479 ft-lb @ 4000 rpm
Redline 7500 rpms

So nice and 'square' tho

Ghostriderf80 · 11-05-2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BPMSport

Just wanted to share one of the most amazing builds that we've had the pleasure of bringing to light.

The project started in January, and somehow, against all odds, it came to fruition.

A few weeks ago we finalized the programming in the donor E30 chassis and the car fired up.

Then the team moved the wiring and engine into the final chassis for the show, and had it transported to SEMA.

I received a call at 2AM a couple days ago that the car wouldn't start. Working tirelessly into the night until 7AM two days in a row, we managed to get her to fire up again.

So far the car is in the top 3 Battle of the Builders competition! It is using the factory ECU, Key, Cluster, etc.

Once we're all finished, it will have traction control and all of the other factory goodies.

Video here:

https://www.instagram.com/honestassembly/

Sounds great!!! amazing build and so clean.

TLK · 11-05-2018, 04:06 PM

Please stop f!!!ing up E30 M3's. Swapping in larger engines and cutting it up has been going on for decades. The whole point was the weight balance and handling. You've ruined another one!

Sam @ BPM Sport · 11-05-2018, 04:06 PM

BPMSport · 11-05-2018, 04:20 PM

Thanks for all the positive comments everyone! We're going to share some technical details and information about the build later this week!

hellrotm · 11-05-2018, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake_Late

~ 149kg is S54 standard weight ( non CSL ) mid production range.

http://mywikimotors.com/bmw-s54/

Not sure where that site got its info, or what components they are including in the weight figure. But BMW is on record saying the S65 is 33 lbs lighter than the S54.

E9x M3 (S65):

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Weighing a mere 202 kg (445 lb), the V8 power unit featured in the new BMW M3 is a genuine lightweight. Even compared with the six-cylinder power unit in the former model, engine weight is down by some 15 kg or 33 lb.

Brake_Late · 11-05-2018, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellrotm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake_Late

~ 149kg is S54 standard weight ( non CSL ) mid production range.

http://mywikimotors.com/bmw-s54/

Not sure where that site got its info, or what components they are including in the weight figure. But BMW is on record saying the S65 is 33 lbs lighter than the S54.

E9x M3 (S65):

Quote:

Weighing a mere 202 kg (445 lb), the V8 power unit featured in the new BMW M3 is a genuine lightweight. Even compared with the six-cylinder power unit in the former model, engine weight is down by some 15 kg or 33 lb.

Engines to engines. Doubtful. Makes no logical sense to me however I didn't write those specs.

Brake_Late · 11-05-2018, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BPMSport

Thanks for all the positive comments everyone! We're going to share some technical details and information about the build later this week!

Keep up the good work

MMPower · 11-06-2018, 01:41 AM

Nice Project, all f80 CAN Bus system added to E30?

positiveions · 11-06-2018, 10:56 AM

Hot tamales. Awesome build. Good luck to you guys.

Bmw doubles · 11-06-2018, 03:23 PM

Nice work BPMSport !

raysspl · 11-07-2018, 12:35 AM

Such an amazing build. Well done guys!

BPMSport · 08-08-2019, 01:14 PM

Updated first page with videos from Donut Media and MotoIQ. Hope you guys enjoy!

BPMSport · 08-08-2019, 10:12 PM

Smoking tire review:

domino_z · 08-09-2019, 04:44 AM

That motoiq presenter made that a really tough watch, but farah saved it

Great build and I like the reasons that created it

rkrammal · 01-21-2022, 11:03 AM

[QUOTE=BPMSport;23938701]Just wanted to share one of the most amazing builds that we've had the pleasure of bringing light

Regards to all the guys , great and clean work
Any info on how and how much such à proje t cost , and what is the way to contact the guys to do same on another car ...

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Brake_Late Brigadier General 1937 Rep 3,297 Posts Drives: 2015 F82 M4 FIREORANGE2 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Manhattan Beach iTrader: (1)	Apologies OP 154kg without Alpha N box or mods etc... http://mywikimotors.com/bmw-s50b32/ ~ 149kg is S54 standard weight ( non CSL ) mid production range. http://mywikimotors.com/bmw-s54/ Non M twin turbo 335si era N54: ( all aluminum and forged , block up ) 145~kg LIGHTEST !!! ) http://mywikimotors.com/n54b30/ S55 and S65: ( really almost a nominal difference ) Slight advantage to S55: Still, hefty tho at 212kg for the V8 and 205kg for the twin thank god for the reliable 500hp to compensate and thus.. carry its own. These two motors would require some serious suspension to offset the much larger weight gap from some of these other swap ideas. Stock S14 is: ~ 106kg for reference point to stock engine weight. https://www.motor-talk.de/forum/akti...hmentId=730180 __________________ Eendraght Maeckt Macht FOF82,3pedals,MPE,CCBs,Multicams, CarbonStrucktureAnthracite, CF_Everything BMWPhotoVin, 01of01, GTS DCT, EPS, MDM, CS EDC,Analog Dip ,GTS parts. Euro Vin e30 M3, FIA cage / 14.7 p / w ratio. Euro E30 touring G30 MSport i3s LBB X5M 3.2carrera https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClRTsfNzuz_EjUBu59UCykA
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Brake_Late Brigadier General 1937 Rep 3,297 Posts Drives: 2015 F82 M4 FIREORANGE2 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Manhattan Beach iTrader: (1)	Check out this hefty BEAST: S70/2 Used in McLaren F1 (Was originally developed for M8) Type 6.1 liter, 48 valve V-12 with aluminum block and heads, 627 bhp Bore and stroke 3.38 x 3.41 in (86 x 87 mm) Weight 266Kg Displacement 370 cubic in, 6064 cc Compression ratio 10.5:1 Engine control system Bosch Motronic with port fuel injection Emissions controls 3-way catalytic converter feedback fuel-air-ratio control auxiliary air pump Valve gear Chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder, hydraulic lifters, variable intake timing Solid Lifter Valvetrain with Single VANOS and Individual Throttle Bodies Power (SAE net) 618 bhp @ 7400 rpm Torque (SAE net) 479 ft-lb @ 4000 rpm Redline 7500 rpms So nice and 'square' tho Attached Images __________________ Eendraght Maeckt Macht FOF82,3pedals,MPE,CCBs,Multicams, CarbonStrucktureAnthracite, CF_Everything BMWPhotoVin, 01of01, GTS DCT, EPS, MDM, CS EDC,Analog Dip ,GTS parts. Euro Vin e30 M3, FIA cage / 14.7 p / w ratio. Euro E30 touring G30 MSport i3s LBB X5M 3.2carrera https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClRTsfNzuz_EjUBu59UCykA
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