Up Close BMW F82 M4 Exhaust Sound Clips

[positiveions]

Nothing too exciting.

[RazBimmer]

That's the loudest exhaust note on an M so far..

[IS3andME]

Originally Posted by Boss330

And what universally acknowledged standard defines that sentiment?

Your statement is based just as much on YOUR personal preferences as a statement that one type of music sounds much better than another... Just because I like Bach, doesn't mean everyone else agrees that his music is the best...

Or that a NASCAR sounds better than a F1 car... I'm sure you will find lots of people who prefer NASCAR to F1 sound and vice versa. Doesn't mean any of them are right or wrong, it's just personal preferences.

And I prefer the more hard, racy sound the S55 had in the last two videos to the more soft, warbly and mellowy S65 sound (stock exhaust). The S65 with stock exhaust is probably much more "likeable" to a US audience grown up on V8 engines, whereas the S55 seems to have a more "European" high pitched metallic sound in the two videos in the OP.

You almost had it right, but the e9x V8 wasn't more likes Le to an Us audience grown up on V8 engines. That would have been the C63's V8, and to keep it BMW, the e39 M5's V8 with an aftermarket exhaust. Probably the best sounding BMW M engine to me (with stock exhaust) was the S85.

It seems that when it comes to Turbo engines (V8s, V12s) Mercedes AMGs have a more visceral sound to them, and they probably will nail it with the 4.0 TT and with the upcoming inline 6 engines.

As was stated earlier, it seems when it comes to turbo inline 6s, the Japanese seem to have been able to nail a sound that to many sounded very good.

[RealStig]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

You almost had it right, but the e9x V8 wasn't more likes Le to an Us audience grown up on V8 engines. That would have been the C63's V8, and to keep it BMW, the e39 M5's V8 with an aftermarket exhaust. Probably the best sounding BMW M engine to me (with stock exhaust) was the S85.

It seems that when it comes to Turbo engines (V8s, V12s) Mercedes AMGs have a more visceral sound to them, and they probably will nail it with the 4.0 TT and with the upcoming inline 6 engines.

As was stated earlier, it seems when it comes to turbo inline 6s, the Japanese seem to have been able to nail a sound that to many sounded very good.

So you are saying the japanese gtr sounds better than the M3 - did I understand that right?

[/// M sa]

Originally Posted by RealStig

So you are saying the japanese gtr sounds better than the M3 - did I understand that right?

My GTR sounds a little better than the video posted here when it was stock. Then I upgraded the exhaust and it's night and day. All the moaning here about the sound is crazy because you have a sedan that does 0-60 in 3.9 seconds and filled with new gadgets and beautiful leather and interior but then again it's in people's nature to put down something that is 1- different 2- New 3- faster or better than what they have per what we have seen so far. Once the reviews come out and I am sure it will be mainly positive, you will still have the same arguments until most of the people complaining end up buying one and then it's all love all over again.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by IS3andME

You almost had it right, but the e9x V8 wasn't more likes Le to an Us audience grown up on V8 engines. That would have been the C63's V8, and to keep it BMW, the e39 M5's V8 with an aftermarket exhaust. Probably the best sounding BMW M engine to me (with stock exhaust) was the S85.

It seems that when it comes to Turbo engines (V8s, V12s) Mercedes AMGs have a more visceral sound to them, and they probably will nail it with the 4.0 TT and with the upcoming inline 6 engines.

As was stated earlier, it seems when it comes to turbo inline 6s, the Japanese seem to have been able to nail a sound that to many sounded very good.

Which japanese I6 on the market today do you mean that has a nice stock exhaust sound?

The E92 V8 sounds very much like a cross plane crank V8 IMHO. Yes it has a higher redline, so at redline it naturally sounds more agressive than a V8 that redlines at 7000rpm or so.

But it still has that unmistakeable cross plane crank warble at idle and slightly offbeat exhaust pulsing that ALL cross plane crank V8's have to have, by design.

And just as a comparison on how different a flat plane crank V8 sounds (but in fact more similar to the S55 in the OP):

The cross plane V8 is perhaps more sonorous and "musical" than the flat plane crank V8, which has a more hard edge and metallic rasp. Just like how it seems the S55 has in the OP, especially when compared to the N55 exhausts. Maybe it's an acquired taste to like it, or perhaps it will sound mean in real life and people will actually like it.

To me, it seems like they have gone for a hard, metallic, racy and edgy sound. Not a "soft" sonorous, musical one.

[/// M sa]

Originally Posted by Boss330

And just as a comparison on how different a flat plane crank V8 sounds (but in fact more similar to the S55 in the OP):

Well based on that sound Boss, that Ferrari sucks not thanks I ll stay with my.. Oh wait never mind funny, I closed my eyes and the sound of the Ferrari and the new M were quite similar.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by //M sa

Well based on that sound Boss, that Ferrari sucks not thanks I ll stay with my.. Oh wait never mind funny, I closed my eyes and the sound of the Ferrari and the new M were quite similar.

Interesting

I suggest we all do that (listen to the idle of the 458 and M4 with eyes closed and headphones). I just did myself, and they are strangely similar at idle...

Perhaps if the sounds in the OP was just released without images and we had been told it was a Ferrari... Wonder how the comments would have been then..

[filip75]

It sounds like a mid 90s 4 cylinder sport motorcycle with a Muzzy exhaust

[S65V8]

First vid sucked, but the second vid is fine. Not great, but sounds fine for what it is. I think there's enough there in the vid to indicate in real-life it will be a bit better. Goes without saying the car will always be on SportPlus exhaust mode.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by filip75

It sounds like a mid 90s 4 cylinder sport motorcycle with a Muzzy exhaust

Is that a good thing... ???

[phrozen06]

http://youtu.be/1Ahj35Avtao

Fast Forward to 13:30. Nuff Said

[filip75]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Is that a good thing... ???

Just an observation.

[Rupes]

Originally Posted by Boss330

And what universally acknowledged standard defines that sentiment?

Your statement is based just as much on YOUR personal preferences as a statement that one type of music sounds much better than another... Just because I like Bach, doesn't mean everyone else agrees that his music is the best...

Hell, you can like the way nails on a chalkboard sound too (it's just an opinion after all). But I think there are some common elements that define a good sounding engine and this one isn't as good as the one it replaces. Others (like the screeching nail people) can disagree.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Rupes

Hell, you can like the way nails on a chalkboard sound too (it's just an opinion after all). But I think there are some common elements that define a good sounding engine and this one isn't as good as the one it replaces. Others (like the screeching nail people) can disagree.

Maybe in your opinion that is true, and there are many that agree with you that the E9x sounds better. To many however, the E9x stock exhaust sound has been a disapointment.

To paraphrase, you can like the way a Chevy van sounds with it's cross plane V8 (it's just an opinion after all). And to me, the S65 stock exhaust sounds to tame and to similar to a Chevy V8 and it wasn't anywhere near as good as the car it replaced (E46 M3). E46 M3 is pure music and shames the S65 sound in every way. But others (like the Chevy van brigade) can disagree

[JRV]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Maybe in your opinion that is true, and there are many that agree with you that the E9x sounds better. To many however, the E9x stock exhaust sound has been a disapointment.

To paraphrase, you can like the way a Chevy van sounds with it's cross plane V8 (it's just an opinion after all). And to me, the S65 stock exhaust sounds to tame and to similar to a Chevy V8 and it wasn't anywhere near as good as the car it replaced (E46 M3). E46 M3 is pure music and shames the S65 sound in every way. But others (like the Chevy van brigade) can disagree

IDK the Chevy van sounds pretty good to me...

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by JRV

IDK the Chevy van sounds pretty good to me...

As I said, many agree that the E9x sounds good, but not everyone... It doesn't stand out when listening to it at a track.

The induction and engine noise on the other hand...

The Chevy van was a tongue in cheek comment directed towards the "Nails on a chalkboard" comment. Such comments are really ignorant, as if any other sound than the one he likes must be as bad as "Nails on chalkboard"... I did the Chevy van comment just to show how stupid such a comment really is... The fact is that people prefer different sounds, and there are no universal definition of what is a good exhaust sound (as he implied). It's just like music, people prefer so many different kinds of music. Doesn't mean that those who prefer something else than me, must also like the sound of "Nails on chalkboard" as well...

[JRV]

Originally Posted by Boss330

As I said, many agree that the E9x sounds good, but not everyone... It doesn't stand out when listening to it at a track.

The induction and engine noise on the other hand...

The Chevy van was a tongue in cheek comment directed towards the "Nails on a chalkboard" comment. Such comments are really ignorant, as if any other sound than the one he likes must be as bad as "Nails on chalkboard"... I did the Chevy van comment just to show how stupid such a comment really is... The fact is that people prefer different sounds, and there are no universal definition of what is a good exhaust sound (as he implied). It's just like music, people prefer so many different kinds of music. Doesn't mean that those who prefer something else than me, must also like the sound of "Nails on chalkboard" as well...

It's all good I threw in the Chevy van comment just to mess with you lol.

[/// M sa]

From other videos I have seen the sound inside the cabin sounds really good with the windows down.. So the question is why care so much what someone outside the car thinks? If you care about everyone's opinion then you lead a life that is not yours. If your trying to impress people as you drive by them with the sound of your exhaust then kudos to you because you must be 21 and doing very well to own a car like M3. Does the car sound amazing? Nope, it's a 6 turbo car. Could it be better, absolutely. Does it change my mind cause it doesn't wake up the neighbors when I start the car? No!

[swamp2]

Originally Posted by Boss330

The E92 V8 sounds very much like a cross plane crank V8 IMHO. Yes it has a higher redline, so at redline it naturally sounds more agressive than a V8 that redlines at 7000rpm or so.

But it still has that unmistakeable cross plane crank warble at idle and slightly offbeat exhaust pulsing that ALL cross plane crank V8's have to have, by design.

The cross plane V8 is perhaps more sonorous and "musical" than the flat plane crank V8, which has a more hard edge and metallic rasp. Just like how it seems the S55 has in the OP, especially when compared to the N55 exhausts. Maybe it's an acquired taste to like it, or perhaps it will sound mean in real life and people will actually like it.

To me, it seems like they have gone for a hard, metallic, racy and edgy sound. Not a "soft" sonorous, musical one.

As we have discussed prior, I think you radically underestimate the contribution to sound from the exhaust system and overestimate the contribution from the crankshaft arrangement.

Originally Posted by Boss330

I suggest we all do that (listen to the idle of the 458 and M4 with eyes closed and headphones). I just did myself, and they are strangely similar at idle..

Ahhh, and not a I6 turbo sounds just like a NA V8, maybe there is less to the whole crossplane vs. flatplane thing also?

But of course again, as much as I agree there is some similarity (with the likely acknowledgment that the M4 was on cold start), ALL of that disappears under no load high rev and certainly under load.

[Blindside_137]

Originally Posted by phrozen06

http://youtu.be/1Ahj35Avtao

Fast Forward to 13:30. Nuff Said

Sounds incredible.

Would get a gtr without a doubt over an M4.

[G3333]

Originally Posted by //M sa

Well look at it this way, when the old M3 is about to get lapped by the new M3 you won't hear it coming. You will only see tail pipes and a raspy sound, I like to fly under the radar I didn't know the enthusiast were so much in to sound on these boards. I love how vette and Shelby boys brag about their engine sound and when I spank that car on the track either my 6 banger GTR they walk away angry.

Lol, point proven. Yes the vette boys do brag about their V8's but i watched a z06 spank a GTR this weekend at the track. the vette ran an 8.4 and alpha9 gtr was running 10's lol