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On the other hand the added weight can be compenssed by the fact that the block is nearly half the lenght of an I6, so it can be mounted even further back. |
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I like to add my 2 cents to this thread mind you I am originally from Germany and having received my engineering training in Germany prior to immigrating to this great part of the world here in Canada I think slightly different when it comes to cars.
This being said and having purchased my first BMW in 1987 (a 535is at that time just one step below the then ///M5). That engine in the 535is is a Straight-6, the 182 HP was all I needed at the time. This car has since been handed down the family tree and is still in fine shape as a daily driver today. BMW and the ///M Division take great care in design and engineering. As all of you Fellows here well know the engineering and design process starts out with a basic 3 Series when the ///M Division Team go to work. When they are done they replaced nearly 50% of the parts and modified nearly 80% of the components before a ///M badge is affixed to this car. This includes the engine, after all the engine is the heart of the final package. Some time back there was a thread when it was rumoured that BMW's ///M Division is working on a brand new engine. I don't much believe in rumoured information since it so often contains a mixture of truth and untruth, passed around in the written word or verbally. Now I've mentioned that I have been driving BMW's for the past 25 years and having seen the constant improvements over the years and the fine cars the ///M Division creates and constantly improves before they are released for production I like to predict the following.
I have earmarked this thread and shall revisit it in 2014 to see what the final facts are Meanwhile you all travel safe now hear
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The M4 is surely going to participate in GT4 and GT2. I don't know what the regulations are, but BMW Motorsport can make engines seperately for racing purpose and a limited edtion for homologation puprose. Some special engine like the P54, based on the S54 and used on the 320i WTCC or the P60 used in the M3 GT-R. We could see the same thing happening again.
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definitely sounds more like an I6 than a V6
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hmmmm...poll!
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If 7DCT is standard and 6MT is free cost option, I'll be disapointed, because it will mean they did make the MT good enough. Porsche is the only EU brand that offers good MT, japanese makers are the best at it, S2000, MX-5, BRZ, are some of the best manual transmissions on the market. I hope the MT will be good, like in 1M, and have short-shifter kit standard.
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This is BMWNAs last year running in the ALMS with the current cars and there is no future development program. BMW will run in VLN (anything goes) and DTM. BMW is building customer cars for GT3/GT4/WTCC and that is basically it and DTM. DTM is going to be stateside and there are rumors of endurance races as well. DTM is much more cost efficient and gets similar coverage.
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Well get use it, mapezzul is correct. Rule changes will have to be made in order for BMW to participate in a series like ALMS. That won't happen, the next generation M3 will not be in ALMS. This was quite obvious some time ago, the ramp down in endurance racing is already happening. BMW have an automatic invite to 24 Hours Le Mans, but they are not showing up this year. They are focusing on DTM, which is a rather large undertaking.
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I'm loving the way the front end is looking at the moment. More of an evolution from the E46 than the E9x was.
If the coupe is labelled "M4" I will debadge and replace it with the proper M3 badge. Or just get a sedan. |
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Backed by NASCAR, covered live on Speed. Offering endurance races and city races. Cheaper to run and more competitive than even ALMS. 2013 was the planned year for US but there is some rumblings that US based brands want in (Corvette/Mustang) and that is delaying things a bit. I'll find out more in two weeks... ALMS continues to shoot themselves in the foot- I covered the series for two years and the politics is unbelievable. They make decisions then change them and leave the teams left to pick up the pieces. The reason why Speed dropped them and they are now being covered by ESPN ABC in parts and mostly online is because SPEED was loosing money on the production end and asked ALMS to pick up some of the tab- they said no. Hard series for people to follow when you can't watch it live or in its entirety. Tell me how the racing series founder- PANOZ can ask for a rewrite of the rules to accommodate his cars and it be granted but other brands can't. How can a series that claims to be "Green" not allow turbo charging or direct injection in this day in age? Corvette for years raced itself in GT1, BMW built their cars for a class that never even came to fruition then had to change the entire setup for LeMans right before the race as they ACO changed its mind as well. Corvette can't run DI... the only brand making out is Ferrari and of course Porsche which has its own class (BMW builds GT3 and GT4 cars but ALMS says NO). BMW will still race at the 24 hours of the 'Ring and other VLN races in Europe as well as privateers campaign in the Z4 GT3 throughout the world but unless something changes in terms of rules and cost structure BMW is done with ALMS/ACO. There is no market gain- MB is not selling any less cars without ALMS and not any more cars now with an F1 team... they bought into F1 to make a profit on the IPO.
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Alright, let's try to keep the discussion somewhat related to the thread topic, the F80 M3. Thanks everybody.
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