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      08-15-2013, 02:07 PM   #199
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I've never seen a non-individual M3 cross 80k - how can it? Even now, I'm at 78k MSRP without add on options like the CF splitter, mirror caps and the M performance exhaust (basically every option that the online configurator allows).

I think what will take the F8x Ms in the 100k territory will be how easily the options add up. I guess that's why we have ED to maximize cost savings
You are correct... 2013 E92 M3 topped at $77,225.
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I like everything about the car except for the hood. They deleted the vents on the hood so it looks a bit plain. Other than that its in perfection.
There is actually no need for hood vents as the car deliberately focuses on function over form..
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hm, it doesn't impress me that much. The color is nice, similar to the phoenix yellow they had on the E46 M3.

But the body shape reminds me of the Mercedes CLA
This hideous monstrosity that looks like it's melting?

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Looks much better than I expected. Can anyone tell if the fenders are more flared than a regular 4 series?
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      08-15-2013, 02:12 PM   #205
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I'm in the minority, but honestly I don't think it looks "much" better than the e92. Obviously the front fascia with the 1M'esque bumper, and the rear, look pretty good, but overall I expected a bit more.

Powertrain wise, yes, turbo I6 with 450'ish HP and lots more torque, blah blah blah, but again, not a huge leap from the e36 -> e46 ->e92 numbers.


Looks good overall, no doubt..... but nicely packaged it will end up around 80'ish. Hard pill to swallow for this car.

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The exhaust looks off from the prototypes which were quite sure featuring production pipes.
I see carbonfiber on those exhaust tips...an Akra exhaust?
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      08-15-2013, 02:16 PM   #207
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I bet this thing will be $90k loaded.
if that's the pricing strategy, which wouldn't surprise me, they'll hit a wall...
a decently optioned Carrera 4S with PDK (which will be faster, higher revving, and NA) comes in at $115k. A Carrera S PDK can be had in the 90's...
I'd buy the M4 over a C2S or C4S, but I'll be taking the GT3 uber alles
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I love every bit of it! I am glad to see the side vents are WAY different than the regular 4 series.

I actually think that M strip on the roof is pretty cool too! What do you guys think?

This color looks exactly the same as Phoenix in the pics. I wonder how different it will be in person.
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I'm in the minority, but honestly I don't think it looks "much" better than the e92. Obviously the front fascia with the 1M'esque bumper, and the rear, look pretty good, but overall I expected a bit more.

Powertrain wise, yes, turbo I6 with 450'ish HP and lots more torque, blah blah blah, but again, not a huge leap from the e36 -> e46 ->e92 numbers.


Looks good overall, no doubt..... but nicely packaged it will end up around 80'ish. Hard pill to swallow for this car.

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I totally agree with you. It's a very nice looking car but not very impressed. To me it looks just like an 4 series with the M package. I guess the visual gap between the M-Sport 428i and the M4 is gotten soo narrow that it's not very impressive. It could be that the styling in a M-sport 4 series has been maxed out...not sure I need a side by side comparison. Can somebody photochop?
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      08-15-2013, 02:19 PM   #211
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All good except for that damn hood I absolutely hate the way it slopes down. Don't like any of the new 3 series with the same damn hood
Should it slope up? lol
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I'm in the minority, but honestly I don't think it looks "much" better than the e92. Obviously the front fascia with the 1M'esque bumper, and the rear, look pretty good, but overall I expected a bit more.

Powertrain wise, yes, turbo I6 with 450'ish HP and lots more torque, blah blah blah, but again, not a huge leap from the e36 -> e46 ->e92 numbers.


Looks good overall, no doubt..... but nicely packaged it will end up around 80'ish. Hard pill to swallow for this car.

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I totally agree with you. It's a very nice looking car but not very impressed. To me it looks just like an 4 series with the M package. I guess the visual gap between the M-Sport 428i and the M4 is gotten soo narrow that it's not very impressive. It could be that the styling in a M-sport 4 series has been maxed out...not sure I need a side by side comparison. Can somebody photochop?
Isn't the the point of an M car? I've always admired the subtlety of the brand.
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      08-15-2013, 02:21 PM   #213
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All good except for that damn hood I absolutely hate the way it slopes down. Don't like any of the new 3 series with the same damn hood
Should it slope up? lol
Or what about sideways?
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      08-15-2013, 02:22 PM   #214
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Should it slope up? lol
No..

Bring the whole fascia up to meet the hood line. On all other 3er's the hood line meets the grille essentially. No droopyness.
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Really?

Ah, the prototype S55. We don't necessarily know that the heat exchanger will be that high. But even if it is, it looks like it'll still clear without the unnecessary bump.
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I totally agree with you. It's a very nice looking car but not very impressed. To me it looks just like an 4 series with the M package. I guess the visual gap between the M-Sport 428i and the M4 is gotten soo narrow that it's not very impressive. It could be that the styling in a M-sport 4 series has been maxed out...not sure I need a side by side comparison. Can somebody photochop?
Look at post #108 in this thread- already side-by-side pics up.
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      08-15-2013, 02:24 PM   #217
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Amazing!! I'm in love! Can't wait for the official specs and a Chris Harris review.
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I'm in the minority, but honestly I don't think it looks "much" better than the e92. Obviously the front fascia with the 1M'esque bumper, and the rear, look pretty good, but overall I expected a bit more.

Powertrain wise, yes, turbo I6 with 450'ish HP and lots more torque, blah blah blah, but again, not a huge leap from the e36 -> e46 ->e92 numbers.


Looks good overall, no doubt..... but nicely packaged it will end up around 80'ish. Hard pill to swallow for this car.

Hate away...
I agree that the E9x matches this very well in terms of design, they both look incredible.

However, I think you are well off in terms of performance leap. Sure we don't know the full numbers yet, but judging by how much quicker the F10 M5 is over the E60 M5, I'm quite certain it'll blow the E9x out of the water. And this is before the tuners get their hands on this, then it's really game over.

As for the price, don't go Individual and add every single option then. Everyone should know that options are what raises the price to eye watering levels.
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I totally agree with you. It's a very nice looking car but not very impressed. To me it looks just like an 4 series with the M package. I guess the visual gap between the M-Sport 428i and the M4 is gotten soo narrow that it's not very impressive. It could be that the styling in a M-sport 4 series has been maxed out...not sure I need a side by side comparison. Can somebody photochop?
I posted some in the middle of this thread
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