Australian Track Lap Times M4 & M2

[MPoweRo]

Originally Posted by Timbo242

Hi, I'm new to the forum so not sure of the process but would love to get feedback on what people are doing with their cars.

Track : Winton
Date : 4/11/19
Car : BMW M3 F80 LCI
Mods : Carbon pads only - standard rotors
Tyres : Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
Time : 1:37.667
Recorded on Natsoft. I have a video but it's in 4K off the GoPro and it's a massive file.

I'd like to bring that down a bit so I'd be interested in what you think are the best mods - please bare in mind it's my daily so don't want to go nuts.

Cheers

Great effort.

Camber plates, pads, maybe thrust arm bearings, good tyres, and some books on technique. Then plenty of in car footage. Enjoy.

[mynameisplayer]

Originally Posted by awbmw

The aero restricts the top end a bit, i normally top out at bang on 270, but my entry onto the straight out of the elbow wasn’t perfect on this lap 😢

Very nice. What tyres you running for this? Seems like a lot of steering lock most corners?!

[Race82]

Originally Posted by MPoweRo

Sandown 23/02 WRX Natsoft

Same setup. Shaved a little time off.

1.21.76

Sorry mate, missed this one, just updated now - good improvement!

[Race82]

Originally Posted by agxr6

went to Tailemn Bend today,
agxr6
M3 Pure DCT, 2.22
DS2500 pads, Conti 5P front tires and Michelin Super Sport rear
great fun day out. Car and Brakes didn't mind being on track, however road tires got really hot and look melted,

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hey mate, sorry i missed this lap earlier, why the mixed tyres front and rear? Btw pressures are way to high and temps way too low... aim for 33-34 hot on street tyres at arournd 70-80 degrees temp..or better still, grab some semi-slicks

[Race82]

Originally Posted by heyandrew1

phillip island 1:51:86
stage 2
suspension stock
tyre cup 2
f82 m4

hey bud, good work, ive just posted your time, was this on natsoft or video? let me know date so i can update for ya

[Race82]

Originally Posted by Stapler

Luddenham Raceway, 53.524, Stapler, M3 F80, DCT, (CUP2 tyres, ZE40 wheels, DS2500 pads & steering wheel LIM button delete), Timing supplied by Luddenham Raceway

time now posted, keep em coming

[Race82]

Originally Posted by OzcarM3

Wakefield Park
21/09/2019
2018 M3 ZCP
RS29, Hankooks,
1:08.3520

faster each time mate nice work champion

[Race82]

Originally Posted by Tempa

Winton, 1:40.5, Tempa, M4, 6MT, (stock car), Natsoft 27/10/19

Easily a 1:39 in there as I had traffic on my pb lap. First track day with the M4.

good time or your first track day, any more planned?

[Race82]

Originally Posted by Timbo242

Hi, I'm new to the forum so not sure of the process but would love to get feedback on what people are doing with their cars.

Track : Winton
Date : 4/11/19
Car : BMW M3 F80 LCI
Mods : Carbon pads only - standard rotors
Tyres : Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
Time : 1:37.667
Recorded on Natsoft. I have a video but it's in 4K off the GoPro and it's a massive file.

I'd like to bring that down a bit so I'd be interested in what you think are the best mods - please bare in mind it's my daily so don't want to go nuts.

Cheers

time added, soz for delay, any more track days since?

[Race82]

Originally Posted by mynameisplayer

Very nice. What tyres you running for this? Seems like a lot of steering lock most corners?!

Pirelli Slicks for this lap...lots of camber, lots of lock, higher entry speeds

[Race82]

Phillip Island 1.41.70 arwbmw M4 (slicks, pagid/ap racing, bilsten) Natsoft 23/11/19 ...video coming soon

[Tempa]

Originally Posted by awbmw

good time or your first track day, any more planned?

Very tempted but realise when I got back home that my brake rotors were warped. Quite suprised that it happened and if I'm gona warp rotors every time I go track......

[Tempa]

Originally Posted by awbmw

Adjustment is minimal without front camber plates. Which are a must if you plan to track. Just get your shop to max neg camber upfront, prob circa -2, and rear around the same. Be prepared to shred the outside edges of your front tyres without -2.5 to -3 camber up front. Run them at 34-35 max hot pressure. Better at 32-34 but don’t start too low to begin with or you’ll damage your side walls, monitor adjust a bleed thru day.

Suggest for anybody tracking these cars regularly, camber plates, pagid RS29 pads and 18” wheels with Advan A050 tyres. Great set up and driveable to and from circut. If you’re in Sydney, see Adam @ Advan Performance.

What brake rotors are you using?

[agxr6]

Originally Posted by awbmw

hey mate, sorry i missed this lap earlier, why the mixed tyres front and rear? Btw pressures are way to high and temps way too low... aim for 33-34 hot on street tyres at arournd 70-80 degrees temp..or better still, grab some semi-slicks

Car came with continental from factory and are still on there, rears didn't last long so they got changed for the Michelin' s.
I think I got about 12k out of rears, car has 20k now nearly due for full set.
Track tires would be ultimate. I don't get that much time to play, wasn't worried about times, just wanted some fun. I didn't adjust pressure from normal driving and needed to drive 400km back home after the day

[bruce4030]

How come nobody posts any times at SMSP or any NSW tracks?

[Race82]

Originally Posted by bruce4030

How come nobody posts any times at SMSP or any NSW tracks?

great question, would love some more times up here! theres a few noted on the front page, but would be great to get some more people posting their times and videos

[Race82]

Originally Posted by agxr6

Car came with continental from factory and are still on there, rears didn't last long so they got changed for the Michelin' s.
I think I got about 12k out of rears, car has 20k now nearly due for full set.
Track tires would be ultimate. I don't get that much time to play, wasn't worried about times, just wanted some fun. I didn't adjust pressure from normal driving and needed to drive 400km back home after the day

welcome to your new best friend... will save your tires, decrease your lap times and will be safer for $99... this plus a good quality tyre gauge worth every penny

https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-on...-only_p6210400

[Race82]

Originally Posted by Tempa

What brake rotors are you using?

AP Racing rotors/calipers and pagid pads

check our @bmwm4race82 on insta for car details

[Race82]

Originally Posted by Tempa

Very tempted but realise when I got back home that my brake rotors were warped. Quite suprised that it happened and if I'm gona warp rotors every time I go track......

ok so the stock rotors and pad set up is not ideal for the track... its actually not the rotors that are the issue, its the pads... the pads cant cope with the heat, and so leave deposits and cause the rotor to wear unevenly. I ran stock rotors with pagid RS29s, which are a far more abrasive pad, for a year at the track without any issues. Put the stock pads back on and the set up was f*&ked in one day... fairly easy to change yourself, or just have your local workshop do it in 15-20 mins the day before and after the track day (was too noisy for me on street full time). Make sure you update your fluid to a high quality race fluid too. SRF of Motul 600 are great, SRF particularly as they say you can leave in for a year without changing. If you're in Sydney go see Adam at Advan Performance.

[mynameisplayer]

Alcon rotors - only have to change rotor, not hat - and lighter too! Factory drilled rotors are good for "street performance" ie: lower noise. Slotted good for track - either way get some brake cooling. I felt the pedal start to go on a 20 min session with rs29, factory disk, no cooling. Thinking of going M5 6 piston fronts....

[OzcarM3]

Originally Posted by mynameisplayer

Alcon rotors - only have to change rotor, not hat - and lighter too! Factory drilled rotors are good for "street performance" ie: lower noise. Slotted good for track - either way get some brake cooling. I felt the pedal start to go on a 20 min session with rs29, factory disk, no cooling. Thinking of going M5 6 piston fronts....

I've got a similar set up. I'm using CCB calipers up front which i had repainted in the OEM colour with RS29 pads and Australian made Brypar rotors.
and they fit inside my 18" wheels.
Back is totally standard except for RS29 pads.

[Tempa]

Originally Posted by awbmw

ok so the stock rotors and pad set up is not ideal for the track... its actually not the rotors that are the issue, its the pads... the pads cant cope with the heat, and so leave deposits and cause the rotor to wear unevenly. I ran stock rotors with pagid RS29s, which are a far more abrasive pad, for a year at the track without any issues. Put the stock pads back on and the set up was f*&ked in one day... fairly easy to change yourself, or just have your local workshop do it in 15-20 mins the day before and after the track day (was too noisy for me on street full time). Make sure you update your fluid to a high quality race fluid too. SRF of Motul 600 are great, SRF particularly as they say you can leave in for a year without changing. If you're in Sydney go see Adam at Advan Performance.

What pads do you use for street then now?