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Plus, if power/dollar was all that mattered we'd all be driving Teslas... this is about The Roundel !!! Nice build OP !!!
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11-05-2019, 11:43 PM | #46 | |
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OP, what size and model tires are you running on those rims?
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11-05-2019, 11:56 PM | #47 | ||
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As far as speed goes, the GTS lapped within a second or so on most tracks, same PRO driver. For us mere mortals lap times would be near as makes no difference between the two. But it's neither here nor there. OP is building a car. That's the take away. It's a cool car out of the box and OP wants to make it better. |
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11-06-2019, 12:20 AM | #48 |
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Congrats on being featured on Bimmerpost front page!
And thanks for letting me have your CCB. Best wishes!
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11-06-2019, 07:29 AM | #49 | |
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Lit build out OP Any calcs on final power to weight ratio achieved or shifted / change from baseline ? Interested in your p/w ratio. Cheers to Ohlins especially ttx https://www.springrates.com/vehicle/...esc&page=2
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11-06-2019, 12:53 PM | #51 | |
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But I’m starting a support group with fellow GTS owners, plus 991 GT3 & GT3 RS, Carrera GT, Enzo, Zonda, MP4-12C, Huracan, and 812 Superfast owners to work through it
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11-06-2019, 09:56 PM | #54 |
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Thank you so much for taking time to post this. Just got a M4 manual. Hoping to turn into a weekend track warrior.
Notice you have front and rear end links , but did you put these on factory sways ? Also why Ohlins over kw cs ? Also why Fall line over SPL ? |
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11-07-2019, 04:38 AM | #57 |
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Why don’t you spend a few minutes looking up info on Ohlins TTX 4-way Motorsport dampers? KW CS are street-based dampers so there’s really no meaningful comparison to TTX dampers. KW Motorsport dampers would be the closest thing KW offers but Ohlins TTX are more widely used by top pro teams (from sport car GT classes to F1). FYI, the M4 GT4 comes with Ohlins TTX dampers. He’s currently running Moton Motorsport 3-way dampers which are another high-end race damper and a direct competitor to TTX (3-way) dampers.
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Ayyeeeee !! We should go for another drive soon !
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Any updates? Beautiful build.
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12-28-2019, 11:09 PM | #64 |
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Update
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone! Apologies for so few updates recently. We have been very busy moving YMS into our new 6000 sq ft facility in Whittier CA.
We have been contemplating building the car into a street class time attack car, a track day car, or a Pikes Peak car. We were at the SEMA and PRI show pulling together some partners to get a better feel for which direction we should take the car. It looks like we are going to end up doing a little bit of everything! Our ex Formula 1 engineer Ricardo came over from France for a week to get his hands on the car and we planned the build quite extensively. The focal point in the next months will be stripping weight and optimizing the suspension. We have been in contact with BMW Motorsport to get an understanding of how the suspension in the M4 articulates. In order to engineer the car at a high level, we need the suspension coordinates which are extremely difficult to measure ourselves due to the M4's asymmetrical multi link suspension. Once we have the coordinates, we'll have a better idea of if we need to redesign the geometry. We spoke with Dallara, the biggest formula car manufacture in the world about making a carbon body and aerodynamic parts for the BMW M4. As you can imagine, having Dallara make anything is not cheap! This would depend on if we could do a small production run of track day special M4s. Please refer to this post: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1681460. The car will be getting stripped down in early January so we can weld in a roll cage and cut out pieces of the frame that we don't need. We originally planned to do our own twist test but according to BMW M, the M4 takes 40,000NM per degree of twist. That is incredibly stiff for a car without a roll cage. To put it into perspective, a Formula 1 Monocoque takes about 36,000NM per degree of twist. When Ricardo was technical director at Nissan from 1996 to 2012, they found that the optimal stiffness of a racecar is 40,000NM per degree of twist. If you look closely at modern OEM racecars including the M4GT4, there are minimal gussets between the frame and the roll cage because the cars are already massively stiff. All of this means the M4 can have sections of the frame removed after we put in the roll cage. One of our customers commissioned us to build his A90 Supra into a caged track day car so will be caging both cars at the same time. Please let me know if you guys are interested in more in depth technical detail. We are creating a youtube channel to document the M4 and our customer builds. The first video will be linked here as soon as its up. Give us a follow on Instagram @ymotorsport to follow the build more closely. |
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What is your target weight? With added power the M3/M4 can be a very fast platform, but at 3600lbs it's never going to be a 911, not to mention the CdA.
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I agree that more power does help but the F8X cars are not lacking in power. To put it into perspective, any F8X car with an engine tune is making more hp than a FIA GT3 racecar. I used to race GT3 cars with a manufacture backed team and I can tell you there were plenty of scenarios where turning down the power was actually helping us go faster. Another issue you run into is overheating DOT tires with too much power especially on 100 tread wear and below. The operating window for soft DOT tires are much narrower than a slick due to the tread removing stability from the rubber. You could attempt to modulate the throttle coming out of corners to avoid wheel spin but the throttle mapping on most street cars are not linear enough and you just end up losing time. Finally, the most important factor you should consider is if your brakes can take the power increase. You are now approaching corners at higher speeds meaning more brake pressure and longer braking zones. I always advise to consider all factors before making power increases as it may not always benefit you. The F8X is not a 911 but 911 is also not a F8X. Both cars have their strength and weaknesses but I think it's important to not dwell on the weaknesses of the F8X, instead focusing on exploiting the most from its strengths. |
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