Official BMW M3 M4 Specs: 430HP, 369+ LB-FT, Under 3306 Pounds, Bi-Turbo Inline 6 Cyl

Joop! · 09-24-2013, 06:07 PM

Looking very promising and quite high tech for the new M of the 3/4 series...

Power maybe 'just' 430HP; but weight is reduced with a minimum of 80kg. With uprated torque and lighter weight, the car will perform better on straights and more important through corners.

Looking forward for a steer in the new M4.

GregW / Oregon · 09-24-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chiphead

I know this is apples/oranges, but throwing some HP, TQ, WT, hp/wt ratio # out there:

M4 Cayman S C7
430 325 455
369 273 460
3306 2910 3298
7.68 8.95 7.24

As I noted earlier, the press release says "significantly more" than 369 lb ft Tq, whatever that means.

e39>all · 09-24-2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 04cobra

So based on those 0-60 in 3.8 and 1/4 in12.0 is my guess

Correct, it will be almost identical to m5. Depends if u do rollout etc. But, I bet the true 0-60 will be hair faster than m5 with 1/4 the same (driver dependent obviously). Just like the m5, 1/4 times will vary from 11.7-12.3 range and good drivers should be able to break 12 stock.

It's too bad they went the wrong direction as far as weight/size for the m5....I think the m3 will be more enjoyable for me (besides exhaust).

The engine surely is underrated. The true power should be at least 450hp and close to 400flbs torque

Keto · 09-24-2013, 06:09 PM

Good thing my deposit is down already (#2 for ED or regular)

ChrisK · 09-24-2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason

We took a ride with Bruno Spengler in the prototype and have an on-board video which I'll be posting soon. Great sounds from inside the cabin.

Yeah I missed that. Sensory overload. LOL

a7med606 · 09-24-2013, 06:10 PM

thank god i didnt bought a 650gc lool
i will wait for it to be one of the first owners in town

///McRae · 09-24-2013, 06:10 PM

What is the difference between twin turbo and "bi-turbo"?

Vervain · 09-24-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

The press release says "substantially more than 500 Nm" (369 lb ft)!

Good catch! Maybe an overboost function with 50-100 Nm more!!! Wishful thinking

Artemis · 09-24-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason

Standard 6 speed manual transmission
- automatic throttle blips on downshift
- more compact and quieter than predecessor E90/E92 M3 6 speed
- 26.4 pounds (12kg) lighter
- carbon fiber friction linings in synchroniser rings
- dry sump lubrication
Optional 7 speed M DCT (double clutch transmission) with launch control
Active M Differential (with constantly variable locking a la M5/M6)
Forged crankshaft

+1 for the manual transmission

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason

M3 and M4 to be introduced together (at Detroit NAIAS 2013 in January).

Hm, back to the future...

timmyc · 09-24-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

The 369lb-ft of torque is the same rating as the overboost rating of the 1M engine.

Is this some kind of mechanical limitation somewhere? It is too... coincidental.

Gives a nice, round 500 when measured in Nm....and probably tuned to have a BMW torque curve instead of turbo lag

Xelloss · 09-24-2013, 06:16 PM

Now let's hope that those carbon fiber seats that have been under speculation get homologated for the U.S. market. Though, with our regulation, it's wishful thinking at best.

stressdoc · 09-24-2013, 06:17 PM

Sweet. Wonder if it will be available for a ED by spring break (late March early April). Making a lot of trips to Germany this year.

Still dreaming of a sub 1000Kg Z2M.

aus · 09-24-2013, 06:17 PM

Somone has to ask... anyone know the rod bearing clearances???
And what oil it uses???

pkimM3r · 09-24-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BNR32

Been waiting for this!

ARE YOU SERIOUS?! you want the car to throttle blip for you in an MT?

let me be the first to say, if anyone hasn't said it yet in the previous 8 pages. Let the 435i boys try to compete with the M4 NOW! muhahahahh

the gap just got serious.

Transfer · 09-24-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Anodite10

Good catch! Maybe an overboost function with 50-100 Nm more!!! Wishful thinking

That would make sense.

Car sounds good in the Autocar video. Makes me wonder about active sound.

Jay-K · 09-24-2013, 06:18 PM

This is just way to cool. Amazed!

BuLoOoSki · 09-24-2013, 06:19 PM

I expected it to be more have slightly more torque, but still impressive numbers considering the weight savings, I think this will be my next car a year from now

buildbright · 09-24-2013, 06:20 PM

Where's the guy that said his inside source was sure it was a triple turbo diesel?

Honestly can you imagine this with some minor tweaking and a JB4.

Never Convicted · 09-24-2013, 06:22 PM

That gnashing sound you hear is the people who got '13 E9x's eating their livers.

flinchy · 09-24-2013, 06:25 PM

>closed-decked crankcase

closed deck block they mean?

why? it's not pushing crazy power, and that just adds weight = bad and cost = bad

and that radiator setup looks ridiculously gumby

wtf is that flat one? haha

gymtime · 09-24-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Never Convicted

That gnashing sound you hear is the people who got '13 E9x's eating their livers.

Nope. I'll take a high-revving V8 over a FI 6. I don't care if it's a little faster. Still going to be an awesome car.

RussRamz · 09-24-2013, 06:27 PM

I'm sold, but will wait for the M4 competition unless they release an M4 CSL.

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