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get a regular with 18's spend the extra money on Akrapovic exhaust and lowering it! IMO the best look on f80 m3 is with 18's and lowered
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Doesn't this get boring guys???
It's the SAME car! I'll go over this one more time for the OP Camp #1: ZCP transforms the car, it's a NEW car, OMG I traded my 15' non ZCP and lost thousands of dollars because I had to have the latest and greatest, love the Satan wheels, love the burbles, the ride on 20s is fine. Best $5000 if spent in my entire life. Camp #2: I can't tell a shit of a difference in ride/handling quality, HATE the wheels (even in person), HATE the seats without lumbar support, seat belts belong on a lime green Mitsu Evo. Waste of $5000. EVERYONE justifies. It's a personal preference OP Close thread |
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Only thing I really value about the ZCP is the exhaust.. a flash upgrade can get me the burbles/crackles .. and gets me a lot more hp and torque for less.. Honestly, end of the day, it's up to you want and what you are willing to modify to get what you want! Last edited by Iceman1; 06-17-2017 at 01:32 AM.. |
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Thanks for clarifying I will agree though, if you aren't going to get the ZCP wheels it's probably not worth it even if you want the other stuff. I think that's what puts it over the threshold for value acceptance. |
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BMW tuned the adjustments it added in the ZCP, so each feature made more performance than the sum of the parts. Aftermarket bolt ons and different tunes will not easily reach the reliability and performance of the ZCP package. As a note, racing teams use nearly identical hardware in some series and yet competition is won in their tuning of their car. The ZCP is a tuned package. Hence a quality upgrade. |
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06-19-2017, 02:31 PM | #96 |
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I've driven both and honestly I couldn't tell the difference besides the louder exhaust and the cosmetic upgrades. Having zcp definitely helps with the resale as well and with the noticeable differences you get with zcp on the f8x vs e9x, I'd say it's definitely a good choice.
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I liked pretty much everything the package had to offer, so it was pretty easy for me. Some people don't seem to like some aspects about it, so they are probably better off not getting it. I sometimes wish the car was actually a little more hardcore than it is, so I think if I didn't get the comp package, I would feel I am missing out.
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I test drove a ZCP car and the handling was much better; more planted, more progressive approaching the limit, less nose dive and body role ... to me it was an obvious difference and significant improvement. Hence, I got one.
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Where I come from, if ZCP is offered, you never buy an M car without it. It's just wasteful to skip it.
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test drove both and didnt notice a difference at all other than louder exhaust, but IMO (and my wifes) the stock M3 is already loud enough. didnt like the wheels. i will never track the car so it was the easiest $5k saved
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if you can afford it, there is no doubt ZCP is better. As many car review articles or videos that agreed this. to get a full M3 experience. But if you just use to commute, you might hardly notice the difference besides the exhaust tone.
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i dont agree. it really depends on how you are using the car. for me, the ZCP would not have been any better. I park backwards in my garage, so when i leave in the morning it is already too loud; with the zcp the whole house would shake. i use my car for daily driving and no tracking. so for me, the zcp would have added no benefit. for those that live in areas with bad traffic and streets (NYC, michigan, etc), the 20 inch wheels and stiffer suspension would be a detriment. so better is a subjective term. better at the track? yes. better as a daily driver? IMO, no. people are just obsessed with having the latest and greatest
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Were there any relevant differences between 2015 and 2016? In any case, you've gotta be dead or in denial if you can't appreciate a huge handling difference between the ZCP and non-ZCP (2015 at least) cars. Every automotive journalist review of the ZCP car I've read acknowledges that.
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I'm also on the M performance HAS. I've driven the ZCP and the overrun burble is nice but is not enough of a reason to spend another $5k since my handling is now on par with a ZCP. The wheels are nice but I'm fine with my 19" wheels. Tracking in 20" wheels is almost a non starter and most people who regularly track these cars get a set of 18" track wheels. What does all that mean, it depends on what you are looking for out of the car. |
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