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      09-24-2013, 05:25 PM   #67
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The weight, HP, and TQ make this look like a fun package!

now...to get those turbos and put some n54 flanges on them....
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      09-24-2013, 05:25 PM   #68
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Not sure if sarcastic but it's been done before
I don't think it was anticipated on this car though. That's why I am surprised
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      09-24-2013, 05:25 PM   #69
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Couple things I have noticed...

BAD:
1) Valvetronic - YIKES... tuning capabilities are somewhat out the window.
2) Plastic Waste Gate Actuator - That could cause some problems hope it doesn't melt...
3) Dash - WTF was BMW thinking...

GOOD:
1) Weight - HOLY COW IT IS LIGHT!!!
2) Cooling System - Water to Air?!?!?! Even just adding cooling system mods (such as a better pump) will add power. Could be bad for engine temp if it is trying to regulate air temp throw flushing water to cool it.
3) CF Drive Shaft - This is just smart to shave weight
4) Power to weight - spectacular

My only feeling is this will fall short of the GTR and still be within 30k of a supercar... Good job BMW and we shall see what happens!

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      09-24-2013, 05:25 PM   #70
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CFRP driveshaft yikes!

This will be my next car (after LCI after one owner - I'm poor!)
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      09-24-2013, 05:26 PM   #71
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I'm totally in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      09-24-2013, 05:27 PM   #72
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And who said the car had a V6? lol
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      09-24-2013, 05:27 PM   #73
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Not sure if sarcastic but it's been done before
I don't think it was anticipated on this car though. That's why I am surprised
True, it's probably a good thing considering how many people don't rev match properly and beat the crap out of the synchros
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      09-24-2013, 05:27 PM   #74
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Where are all the people who swore it would never get down to anywhere near 3,300? Time for your public shaming.
Absolutely no public shaming is deserved. Once you add fluids, driver etc you are at 35xx. That's about 200lbs lighter than the e90 and the same weight as the 335i. Even the most pessimistic people on the board expected that. BMW stated it would be light than the 435i and it looks like it will be by a few pounds.
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      09-24-2013, 05:27 PM   #75
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awesome. looking forward to Swamp's analysis.
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      09-24-2013, 05:27 PM   #76
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•Standard 6 speed manual transmission
◦automatic throttle blips on downshift

Woah!
I have that on my F10 550 6 spd.
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      09-24-2013, 05:28 PM   #77
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Beyond impressive numbers. Im floored
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      09-24-2013, 05:28 PM   #78
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Awesome just barely weighs more than a z4m!

Not sure what the power curve picture actually means without RPM's. Does that mean it plateau's early and won't be exciting all the way to redline, or just that the redline is lower than the s65?
Z4M unladen weight was 3232, so I expect the Z4M to actually be even lighter. Maybe 3,100-ish, going by the how bmw is calculating the weight of the M4.
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      09-24-2013, 05:29 PM   #79
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Wonder how the driveshaft will hold up to the likes of launch control. As well as added power once the tuners get a hold of this car. Pretty cool nonetheless! Going to have to test drive one of these

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      09-24-2013, 05:29 PM   #80
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i would love some times here. like a 730 lap time and a 3.6 second time. then My M3 may be replaced.
LOL keep dreaming. Maybe an m3 variation in about 20 years might come close to that.

I love the m4 and the specs are great. I still believe the weight is simply a marketing gimmick of no options on the base car but I'm not concerned so much about weight as I don't see M cars as viable track cars anymore and wouldn't track one either given other cars that are far better suited but this looks like a great daily car. I just hope they don't mess up the electric steering bc everyone but porsche (perfect eps) has been awful at this to say the least and we know bmw blew it on eps thus far big time. I also hope they don't fall flat once tq drops off to redline like their other turbo motors do.
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      09-24-2013, 05:30 PM   #81
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True, it's probably a good thing considering how many people don't rev match properly and beat the crap out of the synchros
I assume it's a defeatable feature, but it's cool nonetheless. Rev matching down into 2nd in my E92 can be difficult at the track. 3rd and 4th are no problemo though.
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      09-24-2013, 05:30 PM   #82
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      09-24-2013, 05:30 PM   #83
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Only 16hp more than the E92 and 300lbs less?? I'm impressed with the weight loss (albeit never should have gotten to the point of 3900lb in the first place ), but not so much with the power output; am I the only one who feels this way?
nope just you. your lottery ticket isnt a winner either
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      09-24-2013, 05:31 PM   #84
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Is this dry or wet weight?
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      09-24-2013, 05:32 PM   #85
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For those wanting to compare to M cars past:

E30 M3 at 1,225 kg = 2,701 lbs
Z3MC (S52) 1,345 kg = 2,967 lbs
E36 M3 at 1,385 kg = 3,053 lbs
Z4M Coupe 1390 kg = 3,066 lbs
E46 M3 at 1,474 kg = 3,250 lbs
E82 1M at 1,495 kg = 3,296 lbs
E82 M4 at 1,500 kg = 3,306 lbs
E92 M3 at 1,605 kg = 3,538 lbs
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      09-24-2013, 05:32 PM   #86
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Standard manual bad move, what sort of piss take will the DCT be priced at then?
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      09-24-2013, 05:33 PM   #87
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Actually would rather not have the auto rev match.

CFRP driveshaft, really curious to see how durable this is over time. Only a matter of time before we get composite suspension, too.

PS Autoblog needs to eat their words...
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