Pads for street? RedStuff are good!

TopJimmy · 10-15-2022, 08:50 AM

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@TopJimmy how are the reds holding up on low brake dust?

I'm thinking of going full rainbow and trying out the reds from the blues. Blues dust a heck of a lot and I'm tired of cleaning my wheels every 3 days lol

While doing 60-160 rolls at Pocono I noticed fade at the end of my 160-80 decel for the upcoming Turn-1. Not bad but it was there, and I always "pump down" in braking, no constant foot. The brake dust was way lower than stock. Sadly I wrecked that car the following week at the dragstrip, braking not being the problem. A wall jumped out in front of me.

I'm trying Yellows next.

Yikes

I hope you walked away without injury.

If doing stops from 160, I would definitely skip the yellows and go straight for the blues

But I hate squeal…
Blues or Yellows?
I only do the rolls at the track 5-6 days per year.

hellokitty · 10-15-2022, 08:58 AM

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@TopJimmy how are the reds holding up on low brake dust?

I'm thinking of going full rainbow and trying out the reds from the blues. Blues dust a heck of a lot and I'm tired of cleaning my wheels every 3 days lol

While doing 60-160 rolls at Pocono I noticed fade at the end of my 160-80 decel for the upcoming Turn-1. Not bad but it was there, and I always "pump down" in braking, no constant foot. The brake dust was way lower than stock. Sadly I wrecked that car the following week at the dragstrip, braking not being the problem. A wall jumped out in front of me.

I'm trying Yellows next.

Yikes

I hope you walked away without injury.

If doing stops from 160, I would definitely skip the yellows and go straight for the blues

But I hate squeal…
Blues or Yellows?
I only do the rolls at the track 5-6 days per year.

Blues are completely silent for me.

Ironically I have yellows on my wife's car and her car squeals occasionally.

TopJimmy · 10-15-2022, 11:25 AM

hellokitty
Share part numbers for your Blues?
I'll try 'em.

hellokitty · 10-15-2022, 10:38 PM

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hellokitty
Share part numbers for your Blues?
I'll try 'em.

Here it is

WordOnRoad · 10-26-2022, 09:12 AM

Great info here. Super helpful.

These silver wheels are unbearably dirty after just a few days of driving after washing.

JAI///M3 · 10-26-2022, 12:33 PM

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Great info here. Super helpful.

These silver wheels are unbearably dirty after just a few days of driving after washing.

Haven't installed the reds yet but really hoping they help keeping wheels clean. The 666s are hell to clean often.

Also wanted to add in case anyone wants to keep running the sensors, appears EBC part #EFA164 and EFA165 would be the ticket at around $18/ea.

SikkS1K · 10-28-2022, 12:31 PM

I need to do the brakes on 15 M4 steel disk. I see that the part numbers for the front brakes on this post is DP32130C along with what EBC is showing on their website. However when I go to ECS or just look up the red ebc brakes for a M4 the part number is DP32360C. The first part number is for non M cars? My question is what is the correct part number for the front brakes?

TopJimmy · 10-28-2022, 03:55 PM

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I need to do the brakes on 15 M4 steel disk. I see that the part numbers for the front brakes on this post is DP32130C along with what EBC is showing on their website. However when I go to ECS or just look up the red ebc brakes for a M4 the part number is DP32360C. The first part number is for non M cars? My question is what is the correct part number for the front brakes?

The part numbers with picture, on page 2…that's what I installed on my car.

JAI///M3 · 10-28-2022, 04:26 PM

Interestingly enough, I originally ordered the DP32130C fronts but ended up ordering the DP32360C after the fact, based on searching around. EBC's website isn't the most user friendly for looking up applications.

I haven't installed them so can't comment as to fitment or function (yet)

Fat Goose · 10-30-2022, 10:02 PM

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The part numbers with picture, on page 2…that's what I installed on my car.

Those part numbers look to be for ceramic rotors, correct? Looking for steel rotors as well!

TopJimmy · 10-31-2022, 11:06 AM

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The part numbers with picture, on page 2…that's what I installed on my car.

Those part numbers look to be for ceramic rotors, correct? Looking for steel rotors as well!

I'm on base blue steelies…not ceramic rotors or calipers.

eXstasy · 11-01-2022, 10:42 AM

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Interestingly enough, I originally ordered the DP32130C fronts but ended up ordering the DP32360C after the fact, based on searching around. EBC's website isn't the most user friendly for looking up applications.

I haven't installed them so can't comment as to fitment or function (yet)

Seems like you're right. I didn't bother to double check and went with the original EBC red part numbers described in this thread.

I have the DP32160C in front. Technically not the right part number for our vehicles but that being said, with only a 100 or so miles and still breaking them in, I haven't noticed any issues.

I wonder if there are any compound differences between the two because I believe they are the same physical shape. They looked identical to my OEMs IIRC. I did not take a pic of the pads side by side.

TopJimmy · 11-01-2022, 11:56 AM

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Interestingly enough, I originally ordered the DP32130C fronts but ended up ordering the DP32360C after the fact, based on searching around. EBC's website isn't the most user friendly for looking up applications.

I haven't installed them so can't comment as to fitment or function (yet)

Seems like you're right. I didn't bother to double check and went with the original EBC red part numbers described in this thread.

I have the DP32160C in front. Technically not the right part number for our vehicles but that being said, with only a 100 or so miles and still breaking them in, I haven't noticed any issues.

I wonder if there are any compound differences between the two because I believe they are the same physical shape. They looked identical to my OEMs IIRC. I did not take a pic of the pads side by side.

I put them right over top of my stock pads to check sizing first, which were identical to the OEM Textar shape/size, including the pad wear sensor slots.

I'm not sure that they make RefStuff compatible with the carbon brakes, since the pads have the Brake-In coating that would scour carbon discs.

JAI///M3 · 11-06-2022, 06:06 PM

Ok for anyone still wondering, finally had both set of pads in front of me. -130C and -360C and guess what? They appear to be 100%the exact same pad.

The applications on the side of the box are different. The -360C specifically lists the F8x variants but other than that- , size, shape everything is the same. Oh well the price is different as the -360C clearly comes with an M tax, but otherwise the-130C will work in out cars.

Moral of the story? Always listen to Top Jimmy!

eXstasy · 11-09-2022, 09:43 AM

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Ok for anyone still wondering, finally had both set of pads in front of me. -130C and -360C and guess what? They appear to be 100%the exact same pad.

The applications on the side of the box are different. The -360C specifically lists the F8x variants but other than that- , size, shape everything is the same. Oh well the price is different as the -360C clearly comes with an M tax, but otherwise the-130C will work in out cars.

Moral of the story? Always listen to Top Jimmy!

Thanks for coming back to update your findings.

Physically I expected them to be the same shape.

I emailed EBC to ask if there were any compound differences between the pads. No reply for a long while now.

Until they tell me otherwise, my guess is it's likely the same compound given that it's a Red pad.

Looks like it's just M tax.

SikkS1K · 11-09-2022, 12:41 PM

I went to sema and stopped by the EBC booth and asked him the question I had earlier in this post this was his response.

Thank you stopping by the booth at Sema, if I recall correctly we were wanting to find out what the difference between the two part number DP32130C & DP32360C, the pads do look similar to each other but are different in size only by 2mm in length but the biggest difference is the attracted weights they are difference sizes. See attached drawings and picture. Hopes this helps if not please let me know if you need anymore help out.

JAI///M3 · 11-09-2022, 01:11 PM

Interesting thanks. Honestly I didn't even think of comparing the weights. I wonder what the implications are of using one over the other in our F8x cars..?

TopJimmy · 11-09-2022, 02:36 PM

I like how the 32360 has smaller weights!
Better brake clearance to the wheel barrels.

Jim45678 · 11-24-2022, 06:46 AM

Ok, so what is the consensus on brakes internals here?

REDSTUFF 32360 + original rotors? I want to buy now as BF deals are on

TopJimmy · 11-24-2022, 11:09 AM

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Ok, so what is the consensus on brakes internals here?

REDSTUFF 32360 + original rotors? I want to buy now as BF deals are on

Try the new BlueStuff. I hear they stop better and still don't squeak, and the dust is livable. If you just want minimal dust then Reds are a good pick.

Jim45678 · 11-24-2022, 01:13 PM

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Try the new BlueStuff. I hear they stop better and still don't squeak, and the dust is livable. If you just want minimal dust then Reds are a good pick.

Thanks TopJimmy. How about brake discs? OEM or aftermakret?

JAI///M3 · 11-24-2022, 02:04 PM

I'm just getting through the break-in on the reds. Impressions so far are favorable. EBC states noise and some dust should be expected the first few hundred miles. I got both. Noise is now gone and time will tell on the dust, but so far noticeably way less than the dust from the OEM pads. Brake performance feels similar to OEM, but I haven't really pushed them on this street car.

As of now I will likely keep these as OEM replacements. My only real dislike is that you can see the red pads in the blue calipers and it looks like I have a mini superman behind each wheel

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WordOnRoad Captain 313 Rep 661 Posts Drives: E70/F80 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Boston iTrader: (4)	Great info here. Super helpful. These silver wheels are unbearably dirty after just a few days of driving after washing. __________________ Winter: 13 PGM 3.5 E70\|MHD Summer: 15 6MT BSM F80\|MHD\|KW\|SM-10 Gone: 09 AWD 6MT AW E90\|FBO\|MHD\|XHP\|KW\|ARC-8 IG: 475_f80
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SikkS1K New Member 17 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Las Vegas,NV iTrader: (0)	I need to do the brakes on 15 M4 steel disk. I see that the part numbers for the front brakes on this post is DP32130C along with what EBC is showing on their website. However when I go to ECS or just look up the red ebc brakes for a M4 the part number is DP32360C. The first part number is for non M cars? My question is what is the correct part number for the front brakes?
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JAI///M3 Lieutenant 528 Rep 502 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: East Bay iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 F80 [0.00]	Interestingly enough, I originally ordered the DP32130C fronts but ended up ordering the DP32360C after the fact, based on searching around. EBC's website isn't the most user friendly for looking up applications. I haven't installed them so can't comment as to fitment or function (yet)
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JAI///M3 Lieutenant 528 Rep 502 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: East Bay iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 F80 [0.00]	Ok for anyone still wondering, finally had both set of pads in front of me. -130C and -360C and guess what? They appear to be 100%the exact same pad. The applications on the side of the box are different. The -360C specifically lists the F8x variants but other than that- , size, shape everything is the same. Oh well the price is different as the -360C clearly comes with an M tax, but otherwise the-130C will work in out cars. Moral of the story? Always listen to Top Jimmy!
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SikkS1K New Member 17 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Las Vegas,NV iTrader: (0)	I went to sema and stopped by the EBC booth and asked him the question I had earlier in this post this was his response. Thank you stopping by the booth at Sema, if I recall correctly we were wanting to find out what the difference between the two part number DP32130C & DP32360C, the pads do look similar to each other but are different in size only by 2mm in length but the biggest difference is the attracted weights they are difference sizes. See attached drawings and picture. Hopes this helps if not please let me know if you need anymore help out. Attached Images Last edited by SikkS1K; 11-09-2022 at 12:50 PM..
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JAI///M3 Lieutenant 528 Rep 502 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: East Bay iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 F80 [0.00]	Interesting thanks. Honestly I didn't even think of comparing the weights. I wonder what the implications are of using one over the other in our F8x cars..?
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TopJimmy Major General 5457 Rep 5,148 Posts Drives: 2023 M3 Comp xDrive Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Chester County, PA iTrader: (5)	I like how the 32360 has smaller weights! Better brake clearance to the wheel barrels. __________________ '18 F80 Base 6MT \| '19 F82 Exec DCT \| '18 F82 Comp Exec DCT \| '23 G80cx
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Jim45678 First Lieutenant 165 Rep 358 Posts Drives: M3 f80 Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: capital iTrader: (0)	Ok, so what is the consensus on brakes internals here? REDSTUFF 32360 + original rotors? I want to buy now as BF deals are on
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JAI///M3 Lieutenant 528 Rep 502 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: East Bay iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 F80 [0.00]	I'm just getting through the break-in on the reds. Impressions so far are favorable. EBC states noise and some dust should be expected the first few hundred miles. I got both. Noise is now gone and time will tell on the dust, but so far noticeably way less than the dust from the OEM pads. Brake performance feels similar to OEM, but I haven't really pushed them on this street car. As of now I will likely keep these as OEM replacements. My only real dislike is that you can see the red pads in the blue calipers and it looks like I have a mini superman behind each wheel
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