Thinking about a purchase

[jpdchicago]

Originally Posted by W1TAK

The GTS is a special machine, just gets me excited to get in it. Start the engine and it’s really loud in a good way. I have only done a few miles so far, it does remind me of my old CSL....wants to be pushed, handling feels sharp on the road. Gets loads of attention, maybe the sound plus the looks. BMW have really done a trick with this car, I totally get it, maybe I understand it more coming from Europe. At current price point it’s a bargain.

I will track it at some point too, would be a waste not to.

I totally agree. It is an incredible experience every time I sit behind the wheel, push the start button, set it to sport + and open the window. Makes me really look forward to go to work in the morning... I always make sure to take the long way home on the way back.
No other car I ever owned gave me that sensation and I was lucky enough to own some exciting cars in the past...

[FormulaMMM]

Originally Posted by vasi_M3

Let us know your first week impressions...also thinking about going from M3 ZCP to GTS....undecided because I could probably get to GTS track times with Cup2 and MPerformance suspension...but a GTS is a GTS I guess

You might be underestimating GTS performance. I don't think a stock or ZCP with those upgrades alone gets there. Experienced driver will probably be meaningfully faster with a GTS. If you haven't reviewed everything that went into the GTS https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1262417

But beyond lap times, and as OP has opined after some experience, it feels like a fundamentally different car as compared to ZCP. Yep, a GTS is a GTS.

[vasi_M3]

Originally Posted by FormulaMMM

You might be underestimating GTS performance. I don't think a stock or ZCP with those upgrades alone gets there. Experienced driver will probably be meaningfully faster with a GTS. If you haven't reviewed everything that went into the GTS https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1262417

But beyond lap times, and as OP has opined after some experience, it feels like a fundamentally different car as compared to ZCP. Yep, a GTS is a GTS.

Thanks for your perspective, I test drive it on the street and it did feel more eager and the sensations were at 10 the whole time....suspension and noise had a lot to do with it I'm sure.


I really don't doubt its prowess, I'm leaning towards it but I think I would be in better shape to make a call after I drive a 991.2 GTS, and with some Cup2 on it. I know it will feel more refined but if the 911 still feels exciting enough I might just go for it even though it will be 20K or so more

[RandyC54]

Originally Posted by vasi_M3

Let us know your first week impressions...also thinking about going from M3 ZCP to GTS....undecided because I could probably get to GTS track times with Cup2 and MPerformance suspension...but a GTS is a GTS I guess

No you can't. A very well driven ZCP on Cpu2's is still 5-6 seconds slower than the same driver in a GTS. Ask Mike Renner from BMW performance school in SC.

[m3cssvr]

I would do a comparison between the GTS and the current M4 CS. 1 big difference is that the GTS is limited vs the M4CS is still in production

[vasi_M3]

Originally Posted by RandyC54

No you can't. A very well driven ZCP on Cpu2's is still 5-6 seconds slower than the same driver in a GTS. Ask Mike Renner from BMW performance school in SC.

I'm not so sure about that hearsay to be honest. The stats that I used were from MotorTrend tests @ Laguna Seca. Non ZCP M4 on pilot super sport was 2 seconds slower than an M4 GTS in Cup2. Videos on YouTube....

[baki777]

After seeing what BMW is doing with new models (ugly fronts, no sound etc.)
I am also interested in buying a GTS. The prices in EU are very high in relation to USA and Canada. Probably I will import one.

[jpdchicago]

Originally Posted by baki777

After seeing what BMW is doing with new models (ugly fronts, no sound etc.)
I am also interested in buying a GTS. The prices in EU are very high in relation to USA and Canada. Probably I will import one.

Just came back from France. The cheapest one is at $180,000 and there are only 4 on the market. One at 200,000+ (you can see it on uTube on "the gloved driver"- good review for french speaking members)
Only a matter of time they come buy them here from Europe...
Supply and demand!

[baki777]

Originally Posted by jpdchicago

Just came back from France. The cheapest one is at $180,000 and there are only 4 on the market. One at 200,000+ (you can see it on uTube on "the gloved driver"- good review for french speaking members)
Only a matter of time they come buy them here from Europe...
Supply and demand!

In switzerland there is a cheap M4 DTM Champions edition.
But I don't like how the DTM looks..