Major differences between S55 and N54/55

[rngrjag]

Originally Posted by Carl L

Agreed, but what people forget is that M has almost always used regular-series engines as their base. The E30 S14 was based on the M10 block, the the E36's engine came from the 325i/525i, the E46 was just an evolution of that. While the E39 M5's engine was formed from the 535/735/540/740. So, when it's looked at, the only bespoke engine M have made since the E28 and E34 M5s engine (which was made for the M1 iirc) for street cars is the S85 V10. The S65 V8 was basically a 20% diet of that engine (and before people go nuts, yes they were lovely but would've been far better in lighter cars).

Just adding some facts to the revisionist history that goes on around here. Too many people who've never had grease in their hands think displacement is what defines engines.

Little hole in your logic. S65 motor was based on S85, which was a "bespoke motor" according to you. Therefore, the S65 was not based upon a "regular-series engine" by definition. Therefore, it follows that it is the ONLY bespoke V-8 engine made by BMW. Your comments about a lighter car, while true, are irrelevant with respect to whether the S65 motor was "bespoke." It was.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by rngrjag

Little hole in your logic. S65 motor was based on S85, which was a "bespoke motor" according to you. Therefore, the S65 was not based upon a "regular-series engine" by definition. Therefore, it follows that it is the ONLY bespoke V-8 engine made by BMW. Your comments about a lighter car, while true, are irrelevant with respect to whether the S65 motor was "bespoke." It was.

The S55 is also "bespoke" for the F8X

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by rngrjag

Little hole in your logic. S65 motor was based on S85, which was a "bespoke motor" according to you. Therefore, the S65 was not based upon a "regular-series engine" by definition. Therefore, it follows that it is the ONLY bespoke V-8 engine made by BMW. Your comments about a lighter car, while true, are irrelevant with respect to whether the S65 motor was "bespoke." It was.

Nice try overly defensive E92 owner. I already clearly made that distinction. Re-read my post, there's a "little hole" in your comprehension.

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by turbo8765

In the same way that the upcoming 5.2 flat plane in the Mustang 350 is an evolution of a flat head.

So you are saying the 3.2 engine in the E46 was *not* incredibly similar to the 3.2 Evo engine in the E36? Hmmmm.

[BPe90M3]

Interesting. Just picked up my car today and now see how the S55 is worlds better than the N54/55

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by BPe90M3

Interesting. Just picked up my car today and now see how the S55 is worlds better than the N54/55

Pushing the go pedal should tell you that.

[BPe90M3]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

Pushing the go pedal should tell you that.

well i knew it was better.... just didn't know that much better

[BPe90M3]

Originally Posted by STooK

Simple, N54 sounds way better than N55 or S55 lol.

I respect that opinion. But personally I think the contrary.

[rngrjag]

Originally Posted by Carl L

Nice try overly defensive E92 owner. I already clearly made that distinction. Re-read my post, there's a "little hole" in your comprehension.

Oh. I see. It's my reading comprehension... So when you said "only" bespoke motor for a road car, you meant something else entirely. My bad. Carry on, while I brush up on basic grammar and vocabulary. I don't think "only" means what you think it means.

[Mandi90TT]

And all these engines are just further developments/refinements of the original engine in the Model T Ford, which was just a further refinement of the original reciprocating engine......

And the F-35 is just a refinement of the Wright Bros plane.

[FTS]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

And the F-35 is just a refinement of the Wright Bros plane.

[MisterEm]

Originally Posted by rngrjag

Oh. I see. It's my reading comprehension... So when you said "only" bespoke motor for a road car, you meant something else entirely. My bad. Carry on, while I brush up on basic grammar and vocabulary. I don't think "only" means what you think it means.

Do you feel better now?

Feels like 2007/2008 all over again with disgruntled E46 ZCP owners (05/06) pooping on the new E9X....

I am sure I speak for everyone when I say we all appreciate your contribution to this new S55 community. Cannot wait to see what you deliver to the board next.