UPDATE!!! German tuner LEIB Engineering cracked the F-series DME last week!!!

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by JRV

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You are laughing at the top of the page

I sincerely hope you aren't laughing at the last post on the previous page. Not everyone speaks English as their first language... And that the German member just posted that Leib had tuned their M3 shouldn't be something to laugh at???

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by horst66

Hello, leib have tune us M3 last week - nice work - thank you

Hi and welcome!

Is that a F80 M3 and what where the results after the tune (PS and Nm)?

[JRV]

Take it easy Boss. I'm loling at his response after the entire thread basically went nowhere and then this guy just out of nowhere says I just got it tuned thanks! I think it's funny.
Since you want to go there why is it that when someone tries to speak Spanish or a foreign language and everyone gets a chuckle when it comes out funny its ok but when someone does same thing in English everyone slaps the people laughing. Please explain because every culture laughs when someone tries to speak their language and it comes out funny. No need to be politically correct unless there is an inferiority complex going on.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by JRV

Take it easy Boss. I'm loling at his response after the entire thread basically went nowhere and then this guy just out of nowhere says I just got it tuned thanks! I think it's funny.
Since you want to go there why is it that when someone tries to speak Spanish or a foreign language and everyone gets a chuckle when it comes out funny its ok but when someone does same thing in English everyone slaps the people laughing. Please explain because every culture laughs when someone tries to speak their language and it comes out funny. No need to be politically correct unless there is an inferiority complex going on.

If that's how you want to welcome a new poster on this forum, then sure as much as you please.

And not sure that your analysis of different cultures and languages are entirely correct. Perhaps that's how it is where you live, but many often make the mistake of assuming that what is observed on a local/regional/national basis also is true on a international scale.

For instance, we can laugh or make fun of Norwegians trying to talk in a different language (like English, German or Spanish). But it's not funny if we make fun of a foreigner trying to speak Norwegian (just like how you made fun of the new German member trying to write in YOUR language). At least it's considered impolite to laugh in the face of a foreigner trying to speak Norwegian, unless you know that person well enough to do so. Which is why that really isn't done that often, unless it's a stand up comedian etc that makes fun of a certain way of speaking Norwegian on a general basis. Just like English with an Indian accent also is usually considered quite entertaining.

So, what you observe about how English in a different league isn't what other cultures would say. You use your English language culture and feel that you are in a special position that no one else is in. But the exact same thing occurs in a country that has a different language than English as their first language. If you tried posting on a German, Spanish or Norwegian forum. How would you like to have someone native laughing at your attempts to write in their language? And just by using a emoticon. No response or guidance. Just a LOL sign...

Political correct or polite? To me it wasn't about being PC, but to welcome a new member that posted about having done a tune with the sign implied either impoliteness or a lack of maturity. The polite thing would be to welcome someone and ask for details.

Making this into a thing about how it's supposedly not allowed to make fun of someone writing in English shows insecurity on your part IMO

[JRV]

Omg you are a pompous Internet bully you know that. I don't need your scolding about being polite on the internet especially when I explained to you I laughed at the situation. So how's that ECU crack job going Mr. Rogers.

[hellrotm]

Not really interested in a flash tune, until there are handheld flashers available. I wouldn't want to deal with sending in my ecu or going to the shop every time I needed a flash. I don't see at home flashing coming anytime soon.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Not really interested in a flash tune, until there are handheld flashers available. I wouldn't want to deal with sending in my ecu or going to the shop every time I needed a flash. I don't see at home flashing coming anytime soon.

My son has a handheld Bluefin from Superchips. The awesome thing is you can switch back and forth between stock and tuned software.

Agree that this is preferrable (unless you own a Tuning company and have unlimited access to the workshop to upload files into your DME...)

[04RC51]

And I'm calling bullshit on them tuning an M3 also. Just more vaporware and vaporposts.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by 04RC51

And I'm calling bullshit on them tuning an M3 also. Just more vaporware and vaporposts.

Could be. We do have one long standing forum member that was there with his F10 M5 though...

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Could be. We do have one long standing forum member that was there with his F10 M5 though...

Once my car is flashed I post some JB4 map4 logs as proof on what tune the DME runs once flashed

[horst66]

Ja, Leib hat meinen M3 F80 getunt, und ich finde es nicht lustig das sich hier jemand über mein "german school englisch " lustig macht.

JRV - du Grasdackel

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by horst66

Ja, Leib hat meinen M3 F80 getunt, und ich finde es nicht lustig das sich hier jemand über mein "german school englisch " lustig macht.

JRV - du Grasdackel

Vielen Dank für ihre antwort!

Ich wurde gerne ein bischen details über die tune haben bitte

Bitte entschuldigen sie meine Deutsch...

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Could be. We do have one long standing forum member that was there with his F10 M5 though...

Yes, you keep referencing this one magical person. Possibly a unicorn associated with them, helping them pump up their vaporware?

[W///]

Not that I have a dog in this fight, but I find it hilarious that this thread was started in early August, it's now almost November and still no concrete evidence? News as big as this is usually accompanied with pics, dynos, videos. Absolutely nothing here. What kind of company works like that?

[04RC51]

Originally Posted by W///

What kind of company works like that?

Obviously one with something to hide and nothing to show other than a few boastful posts by someone who may or may not be associated with them.

[Sir_M4]

Can't wait till they start selling this off to the rest of the other big companies. LOL!

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by 04RC51

Yes, you keep referencing this one magical person. Possibly a unicorn associated with them, helping them pump up their vaporware?

Originally Posted by 04RC51

Obviously one with something to hide and nothing to show other than a few boastful posts by someone who may or may not be associated with them.

I am not associated with them in ANY way. Never met them, never bought anything off them. Just happened to find the info via Facebook.

The "magical person" is a long standing member here and you are free to contact him and reply to his posts on the M5 forums. He posted after he had been to Leib. He has documented his F10 M5 Journey, first with the Manhart tune, then with the PP tune and Vmax delete. And now with Leib. He has provided videos, Vbox and dyno sheets previously. He is involved in a different tuning company, so I don't suspect that he is "a unicorn associated with them"

And, we now have two recent German/European members claiming that Leib tuned their F8x M cars as well...

I can tell you that if this indeed is a hoax, then I have been taken for a ride as well...



BTW, dyno sheets and info available from their FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/Leibengineering?fref=ts

++ News ++
F10 M5 development has already begun - what will happen:

- enginedestroying, not satisfying additional modul will be removed and replaced through the LEIB Software on the both original ECU's with a perfect Setting
- vmax will be removed completely, about > 360 km/h
- mini cat's will be removed and the CEL (check engine light) will be removed
- for STAGE 2, there will be a new manifold with a bigger Profile with a perfect Setting
- LEIB CAN PERFORMANCE valve vontrol via the M1 button (M1 button/mode active = valves open | M1 button/mode not active = valves closed) will replace the IPE valve control

This will be a Monster...

++ f-series update: 335i, 435i, M135i, M235i software finished++
++ from today you can place your order waiting time optimized ++
++ only one week of time to get your ECU back ++

335i & 435i : 500Nm & 380 PS for only 1980 €
M135i & M235i : 540Nm & 390 PS for only 1980 €

features: vmax open, CEL (check engine light) deleted (catless downpipes)

The first 10 (N55) orders will receive 10 discount of 20%.
Only 1584 €. To place this order, you have to pay 50% (792 €) of the price in advance.
— at LEIB Engineering

+ F10 M5 update ++ work has paid off: F10 M5 with perfectly coordinated software in the original engine control unit leaves the halls of body engineering.

Super Sprint Testpipes + IPE exhaust system with valves + body software + body flap control (normal - folding to M1, button active - Auto mode from 66.6% accelerator pedal position flaps on M2 button active - fold permanently open) + Vmax open + check engine light out programmed.
It has become a monster. 727 HP...

Have fun with it: (Translated by Bing)

+ Another F10 M5 update ++ current status of our M5 monsters, see for yourself: 744,8 HP and 935,7 NM on the rear axle (Translated by Bing)

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by W///

Not that I have a dog in this fight, but I find it hilarious that this thread was started in early August, it's now almost November and still no concrete evidence? News as big as this is usually accompanied with pics, dynos, videos. Absolutely nothing here. What kind of company works like that?

https://www.facebook.com/Leibengineering?fref=ts

I am not their representative nor have I looked on their Facebook page recently. But this company seems to work like most other companies, publishing their info in the public domain (like on social media). This thread wasn't started by Leib, I suspect they don't even know about it's existence... Don't expect them to update a thread they don't know about

The info is available, you just have to go to their FB page

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by Boss330

I am not associated with them in ANY way. Never met them, never bought anything off them. Just happened to find the info via Facebook.

All that info is for the M5. What does that have to do with this F8X thread that you started????

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

All that info is for the M5. What does that have to do with this F8X thread that you started????

Sorry for providing info about the member that was refered to as a "unicorn" just a few posts previous.

The point is that the F10 M5 was tuned with a custom DME flash tune and that Leib had provided the info for this tune, something that other members questioned.

And if you care to read the OP, you will see that this is not a F8x specific thread, but provides info about a possible crack of the Fxx gen DME...

Again, sorry for providing info about Fxx gen tuning to the forum...

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Sorry for providing info about the member that was refered to as a "unicorn" just a few posts previous.

The point is that the F10 M5 was tuned with a custom DME flash tune and that Leib had provided the info for this tune, something that other members questioned.

And if you care to read the OP, you will see that this is not a F8x specific thread, but provides info about a possible crack of the Fxx gen DME...

Again, sorry for providing info about Fxx gen tuning to the forum...

Indeed its proof that some companies can flash Fxx ECU. Maybe not yet in the way that US people are used to (COBB AP through OBD) but it looks like F series ECU tune is possible.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by 04RC51

Yes, you keep referencing this one magical person. Possibly a unicorn associated with them, helping them pump up their vaporware?

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=139

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthr...1019376&page=7