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Wow, that's awesome!
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10-01-2015, 10:21 AM | #7 |
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Glad to see a near 10.9 without upgraded turbos
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10-01-2015, 01:36 PM | #8 |
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I'll be impressed the day a 6MT can attain these numbers. A 14yr old could smash the throttle once the lights turn green and just hold onto the steering wheel..takes a lot more skill to get it done w/ a third pedal. Great numbers regardless.
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Awesome results !!
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Isn't this thread supposed to be about an F8X clocking the 1/4 at 11 flat on stock turbos? Why did this become a S55 vs S65 battle?
I guess I'll chime in here since I have an s/c E92. There's no denying the top end power of a blown S65. I LOVE revving to redline on the highway, pure joy! However this motor feels so torqueless. And most of my driving is in the city. I would gladly give up some top end for low end torque. Even my buddy's stock 1st gen C63 Benz has more torque than my ESS VT2-650 and I can certainly feel it when he lets me drive it. I've never driven an F8X M3/M4 but looking at dyno graphs they have very different power curves. Both have advantages/disadvantages. Having said that I will be ordering an M4 in the near future and will be sure to give a full review comparo. Anyway back on topic, congrats to the OP for an awesome time/trap on the stock turbos. I'll be upgrading those when I get my car |
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Time to let it go - 6MT's are still fun for driver enjoyment, but like threshold breaking vs. ABS, technology has made that driver skill obsolete. Sure, it's pure joy to threshold brake better than ABS, but the downsides (squared tires) haven't been worth the bother for the better part of the last 30+ years. Now any 14yr old can decelerate as well as, and more consistently than, 60s pro racer ... and accelerate as well ! Steering - that still takes some skill ;-) a
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DCT is not a traditional slushbox with torque-converter inducing power loss. DCT is a manual transmission with two input shafts which allow for automated pre-synchronization of the next gear during up/down-shift. 6MT must clutch to unload the input shaft to synchronize them to the speed of selected gear on the output shaft. Thus the performance advantage of DCT (at the cost of extra weight and complexity), that can pre-synchronize next gear and then quickly swap the clutches, keeping the power to the wheels nearly uninterrupted during shifts. Quote:
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As mentioned above, its WAY more impressive seeing an 11 second run with a 6MT
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The 6mt is a FAR more reliable set up if your looking to build a mega HP car. A completely stock 6spd mt putting down 708rwhp/710flbs!! On the factory stock clutch is a testament to that. Wait till they actually make an upgraded clutch for it. No need yet as its stronger than what the motors can do "so far"
...for getting the most out of stock turbos and weak sauce set-ups.. the DCT's are quicker down low, but their advantage is negligible past the the 1/4mile. this was proven already at various 1/2mile events where equally powered m3/m4's do virtually identically e.t.s and trap speeds with the different trannys* Last edited by BMW M4 PWR; 10-10-2015 at 11:03 AM.. |
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how did you launch your car for best results?
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