BMW M Performance Suspension (HAS height adjustable sleeve over kit)

s0ul · 02-26-2016, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghosn

Yeh, nah

The benefit of M Perf versions is BMW have tuned them for the M cars and will also offer a factory warranty. Big difference bud

Well the big difference is one is in the market, while the other isn't :P

KASM3 · 02-26-2016, 06:12 PM

No one affiliated with BMW on the forum has an ETA on these yet?

s0ul · 02-26-2016, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghosn

Yeh, nah

The benefit of M Perf versions is BMW have tuned them for the M cars and will also offer a factory warranty. Big difference bud

Believe me I want this suspension as much as the next guy but BMW is taking their sweet-ass time.

swagon · 02-27-2016, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by F82bro

So the M2 M Performance springs will be available before the M2 hits the streets. And the M3/4 springs will be out whenever. That makes a lot of sense.

1. That's not what I said. I said that they will probably release the M3 suspension at the same time as the M2, which is said to be at the end of March.

2. The M2 is getting proper KW-sourced coilovers, not just HAS.

Merli · 02-27-2016, 01:41 AM

Are either the KW HAS or M Perf springs progressive? or are they linear spring rates?

slowie · 02-27-2016, 02:31 AM

No word on them down here in OZ either..... waiting waiting!!!!!

Ghosn · 02-27-2016, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by s0ul

Believe me I want this suspension as much as the next guy but BMW is taking their sweet-ass time.

I hear ya but my car is due some time in April so the wait is a little easier for me, but I'm hoping they arrive before the car does so I can get the car done as soon as it arrives.

CanAutM3 · 02-27-2016, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by swagon

2. The M2 is getting proper KW-sourced coilovers, not just HAS.

This remains to be seen. Since the front are struts, a coilover is a given. But I have a hunch the M2 rear M-performance will not be a coilover and will stick with the OEM arrangement, albeit with new springs and struts.

swagon · 02-27-2016, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

This remains to be seen. Since the front are struts, a coilover is a given. But I have a hunch the M2 rear M-performance will not be a coilover and will stick with the OEM arrangement, albeit with new springs and struts.

Well, yes, I thought that was obvious.

Is it even possible to convert to true coilovers in the back?

CanAutM3 · 02-27-2016, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by swagon

Well, yes, I thought that was obvious.

Is it even possible to convert to true coilovers in the back?

Well then, it isn't anymore of a "proper coilover" than the one for the M3/4.

swagon · 02-27-2016, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Well then, it isn't anymore of a "proper coilover" than the one for the M3/4.

Technically, you are 100% right (as usual

), but I thought that the term "coilover suspension" has been always, albeit incorrectly, used for a complete suspension kit that has height adjustment and (mostly) damper adjustment. No matter how the rear suspension is designed.

KW themselves use the term "thread springs" for their KW HAS kits. http://www.kwsuspensions.net/

robbo mcs · 02-27-2016, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by swagon

Is it even possible to convert to true coilovers in the back?

The Ohlins ttx setup that was posted in this forum had the rear converted to true coilovers.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1129675

F82bro · 02-28-2016, 10:22 AM

The toughest thing about making a decision on what spring/damper set up to go with is the lack of reliable data on what set up allows the car to perform best. Is there any F8x test data (i.e. numbers) on KW HAS, Ohlins, Swift, Eibach, etc.?

At the end of the day what matters most is that after paying a chunk of change that you achieve something demonstrably better than what you started with. With the new ZCP option, I am sure there will be plenty of road tests that will provide data to compare its performance over the stock suspension. Hopefully there will also be data from BMW on the new M Performance springs since they supposedly tested them on the Nurburgring as part of their development. Data would be nice to have to compliment peoples anecdotal experience of all these set ups. It would allow all of us to make the best decisions based on what our individual priorities are.

s0ul · 02-28-2016, 08:41 PM

Meh

I'm going to end up getting HAS

Shit's taking too long :P

stranger · 02-29-2016, 03:24 AM

grabbed a set of kw clubsports

8_is_enough · 03-10-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by s0ul

Meh

I'm going to end up getting HAS

Shit's taking too long :P

i'm on the same boat

s0ul · 03-10-2016, 08:23 PM

Ordered my K.W. H.A.S.

Thanks to Kevin from EAS. It arrived in less than 18 hours at my door.

JAGOOD · 03-11-2016, 09:51 AM

I found this article on the web. They are for the EDC suspension. Don't have any release info though.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2015/11/06/fa...ble-coilovers/

Brosef · 03-11-2016, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by uo813a

I found this article on the web. They are for the EDC suspension. Don't have any release info though.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2015/11/06/fa...ble-coilovers/

you're bringing sand to the beach, my friend.

x.shell · 03-11-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brosef

you're bringing sand to the beach, my friend.

LOL!

mshab356 · 03-18-2016, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KASM3

No one affiliated with BMW on the forum has an ETA on these yet?

A friend of mine at BMW HQ said be on the lookout this summer. Not much info besides that though. Whenever he updates me further I'll let everyone know.

Ade_7 · 03-22-2016, 03:17 PM

I asked my dealer about these again today hoping they'll be available for my delivery in May. They've had an mperformance specialist in to update all their info and when asked said they'd be available q2 or q3 this year. So it still seems pretty vague.
I guess I have to pray for early q2 then..

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F82bro Enlisted Member 21 Rep 46 Posts Drives: F82 Austin Yellow Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	The toughest thing about making a decision on what spring/damper set up to go with is the lack of reliable data on what set up allows the car to perform best. Is there any F8x test data (i.e. numbers) on KW HAS, Ohlins, Swift, Eibach, etc.? At the end of the day what matters most is that after paying a chunk of change that you achieve something demonstrably better than what you started with. With the new ZCP option, I am sure there will be plenty of road tests that will provide data to compare its performance over the stock suspension. Hopefully there will also be data from BMW on the new M Performance springs since they supposedly tested them on the Nurburgring as part of their development. Data would be nice to have to compliment peoples anecdotal experience of all these set ups. It would allow all of us to make the best decisions based on what our individual priorities are.
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