Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by swagon

Still don't understand why BMW insists on having the bottom of the car all black. Those black rocker panels don't do anything good on the 2er.

Too bad they ruin things with over-styled bits, e.g., rear "diffuser." And why are the kidneys joined together?

It's a mixed bag that only gets worse as you get to the rear, though it's already better than the G22... which is not that difficult to do

I kinda dig it at this angle. We'll see in person.

The real question is does the grill design signify they realized the G8x M3/M4 are the laughing stock of the world to most enthusiasts.

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Another super car wrecked in Canada. This one took out an 11 month old.

11 month old child?

Originally Posted by dmk08

The real question is does the grill design signify they realized the G8x M3/M4 are the laughing stock of the world to most enthusiasts.

no

This man is responsible for the new awful designs
Reddit trying to figure out who to blame after the new 2er

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Tecnniqe

11 month old child?

no

Yeah! Unfortunate.

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yeah! Unfortunate.

So is the driver going under the jail?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Tecnniqe

So is the driver going under the jail?

That's a good question. I'm not sure how Canada works exactly, but even if the driver is absolved of criminal liability he/she would almost certainly be sued civilly.

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Another super car wrecked in Canada. This one took out an 11 month old.

Jesus, I swear these supercar drivers need a class on how to actually drive their cars. No one should be losing their loved ones to an idiot who doesn't know how to use his toys.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Yeah! Unfortunate.

Freaken idiots.

Money doesn't buy driving skills.

On the happier note of the Lotus. I want to know a bit more about the car but it looks genuinely a good competitor to the Cayman. V6, DCT or 6speed (and you can look at the 6speed gears!) interior is far better than the previous gen, looks like an exotic car AND it's apparently 20k+ cheaper? Why the heck not lol. Not to mention it's still has a hydraulic steering rack.

[swagon]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Isn't the opposite true now? Manuals don't exist in most cars due to cost and low take rate? That's how it is in the US at least.

If I had the choice I would take manual in 90% of cars. It's just more engaging.

It's the other way round in Europe. Daily appliances are manual, upscale/sports cars are bought with automatics nowadays. Even auto rental cars carry a premium.

Last time I checked, less than 10% M2 CS with 6MT in Germany. You're getting the Mk8 Golf R with 6MT, as the only continent in the world.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by Arcades

Freaken idiots.

Money doesn't buy driving skills.

On the happier note of the Lotus. I want to know a bit more about the car but it looks genuinely a good competitor to the Cayman. V6, DCT or 6speed (and you can look at the 6speed gears!) interior is far better than the previous gen, looks like an exotic car AND it's apparently 20k+ cheaper? Why the heck not lol. Not to mention it's still has a hydraulic steering rack.

That lotus looks real interesting. I'm interested to see the size for bigger guys. While I adore a lotus, I simply cannot fit in one with any level of comfort that makes sense to own. The cayman is just a bit too small to me as well, so if this is a bit bigger cockpit than the cayman, man is it a great contender for sports cars for tall/big guys. The two times in my life I wish I was smaller are (1) sports cars, and (2) fighter jets. So while yeah, I like being tall, short guys get all the high speed fun lol.

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by swagon

Still don't understand why BMW insists on having the bottom of the car all black. Those black rocker panels don't do anything good on the 2er.

Yeah, I just don't understand this.

A decade ago we spent money on getting those lower black pieces color matched. Off we go again.

BMWs already sit kinda high, the lower black pieces makes the illusion even worse.

[Mavus]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Yeah, I just don't understand this.

A decade ago we spent money on getting those lower black pieces color matched. Off we go again.

BMWs already sit kinda high, the lower black pieces makes the illusion even worse.

very poor design choice considering they will get blasted by road debris and look like crap within a few months

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by swagon

It's the other way round in Europe. Daily appliances are manual, upscale/sports cars are bought with automatics nowadays. Even auto rental cars carry a premium.

Last time I checked, less than 10% M2 CS with 6MT in Germany. You're getting the Mk8 Golf R with 6MT, as the only continent in the world.

I guess that's why the US is the greatest country ever!!!

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by dmk08

The real question is does the grill design signify they realized the G8x M3/M4 are the laughing stock of the world to most enthusiasts.

This.

Beaverface sucks and everyone knows it sucks - continuing is sales poison & business suicide. A good biz does more of what works and less of what doesn't work - BMW is doing less beaverface. Fact.

Whatever bullshit BF sales numbers BMW rolls out, we already know what management thinks: kill it. Kill it with fire. It's like when your buddy breaks up with his ButterFace & tells everyone they just didn't get it. He needs to save a little face SOMEHOW ... let him have something.

Death of BF is very likely Zipse's most visible contribution thus far ...

Unbold prediction:
BF is dead and the design & product leads are deadmen walking - they'll like start taking new (or no) roles around the turn of the year.

[ash4390]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Another super car wrecked in Canada. This one took out an 11 month old.

Yep, this happened just down the street from my place.

SUV turned down a one-way going the wrong way (allegedly under the influence), hit the McLaren (on dealer plates no less), lost control and hit a father carrying his baby.

Vancouver subreddit of course had it's pitch forks out declaring how supercar drivers are assholes yadda yadda yadda. Media was spinning it that way too, until they arrested the driver of the SUV and now no updates from media.

Stupid stupid stupid tragedy.

[ash4390]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Jesus, I swear these supercar drivers need a class on how to actually drive their cars. No one should be losing their loved ones to an idiot who doesn't know how to use his toys.

See my other post, SUV driver driving in the wrong direction on a one way hit the McLaren then lost control and hit the dad & baby. McLaren driver did nothing except be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

This.

Beaverface sucks and everyone knows it sucks - continuing is sales poison & business suicide. A good biz does more of what works and less of what doesn't work - BMW is doing less beaverface. Fact.

Whatever bullshit BF sales numbers BMW rolls out, we already know what management thinks: kill it. Kill it with fire. It's like when your buddy breaks up with his ButterFace & tells everyone they just didn't get it. He needs to save a little face SOMEHOW ... let him have something.

Death of BF is very likely Zipse's most visible contribution thus far ...

Unbold prediction:
BF is dead and the design & product leads are deadmen walking - they'll like start taking new (or no) roles around the turn of the year.

Doubt it!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ash4390

Yep, this happened just down the street from my place.

SUV turned down a one-way going the wrong way (allegedly under the influence), hit the McLaren (on dealer plates no less), lost control and hit a father carrying his baby.

Vancouver subreddit of course had it's pitch forks out declaring how supercar drivers are assholes yadda yadda yadda. Media was spinning it that way too, until they arrested the driver of the SUV and now no updates from media.

Stupid stupid stupid tragedy.

Originally Posted by ash4390

See my other post, SUV driver driving in the wrong direction on a one way hit the McLaren then lost control and hit the dad & baby. McLaren driver did nothing except be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Thanks for the updates. What really sucks is that the media didn't come out and admit to jumping the gun, offering an apology and correcting the narrative. Pansies!

[Ropes]

The new 2 series has two really annoying design attributes. One is the entire 2010 Suzuki rear end and the second are the triangles up front. The side proportions seem off, the front is so so and the mirror caps are don't belong but those are minor compared to the 2 main complaints.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Doubt it!

Huh, so then what's your business theory on why the X refresh & 2-series have no BF?

"At BMW, the only thing consistent about our design is inconsistency"?

"At BMW, our design language is Pig Latin"?

"BMW: If at first you don't succeed, pretend you did, then flail around - maybe it'll work out "?

"Remember when we fired Bangle? Never again!"?

"gawddammit how come nobody told us this kid's unemployed & lives with his parents"?



But seriously, what's your business theory on the design inconsistency?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Huh, so then what's your business theory on why the X refresh & 2-series have no BF?

"At BMW, the only thing consistent about our design is inconsistency"?

"At BMW, our design language is Pig Latin"?

"BMW: If at first you don't succeed, pretend you did, then flail around - maybe it'll work out "?

"Remember when we fired Bangle? Never again!"?

"gawddammit how come nobody told us this kid's unemployed & lives with his parents"?
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But seriously, what's your business theory on the design inconsistency?

I don't see it as design inconsistency at all. I see lots of consistency among the product line. I also see a lot of differentiation, which is welcomed and has been requested as far back as the early 2000's, when BMW was heavily criticized for all of the cars looking the same. Considering we've been seeing leaked images of the 2 for about a year (…or maybe more), there's no reason to believe there's any correlation. The 2 was never going to have the same front end as the new i4/4/M3/4. The beaver face is selling well. If I'm being honest, it's selling so well that it's likely adding to what many here would describe as "smugness" on behalf of BMW. I know many here (…and in other areas of the interwebz) like to Picasso paint BMW's demise, but I'm not seeing it from my vantage point. These cars really have no problem moving, so on one hand it has alienated some, but on the other, it has brought many new buyers to the brand. I would wager that in five year's time - when we have a better tally on sales numbers - it will illustrate that BMW hit the mark despite how some of the vocal bunch feel.

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by ash4390

Yep, this happened just down the street from my place.

SUV turned down a one-way going the wrong way (allegedly under the influence), hit the McLaren (on dealer plates no less), lost control and hit a father carrying his baby.

Vancouver subreddit of course had it's pitch forks out declaring how supercar drivers are assholes yadda yadda yadda. Media was spinning it that way too, until they arrested the driver of the SUV and now no updates from media.

Stupid stupid stupid tragedy.

So Classic media spin, great!

At least they've gotten the right driver!

[stein_325i]

I cannot wait till I can drive one of these things. The exhaust alone is just fantastic. It will literally be the ONLY V8 4-Door Manual Sedan on the market.