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Yeah, that's high. I paid $450 or $90/hr for my JRZ Pro install ( Dampers, springs, camber plates, securing external disconnects etc) and another $250 for an alignment and corner balance.
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i apologize for polluting the thread, but i'm kinda lost in all this. This weekend i'm going to both Spa & Nordschleife and i have no clue how to setup the alignment. Currently it is as my dealership set it up. I've done some track days on a small track nearby with this setup and it was ok'ish (i have no comparison). I'd like to get somewhere nearby the compromise between road and track setup - by that i mean it should still be driveable on the streets and have more or less even tyre wear, but also maybe use the suspension potential a little bit more. The suspension is KW V4 - in M4 GTS config (rebound, low speed compression, high speed compression) for road/Nordschleife. Also did nordschleife before with stock suspension and stock alignment - it was slow but no body shop appointments were required afterwards.
Can someone please correct me if i'm wrong below? i want even tyre wear so the camber should be max -2 degrees on any wheel. I was thinking front -2, rear -1.5. But then again GTS has more camber in the rear than in the front, based on settings in this thread people rather do the opposite. Front toe should be close to 0 (but someone wrote it's not that great for street). Rear toe - here's where i don't get it. i know it should be positive. The car has slightly bigger tyre than in the specs on the rear axle (285/35R19). Do you have any suggestions on where to begin my "adventure" with alignment settings? I'm looking for something slightly more track oriented, but still some kind of safe baseline from which i could move towards more 'spirited driving' settings. I get it's more or less hit & miss and up to personal preference/skills, but maybe there are some universal rules to follow. I googled it, but what i've found doesn't seem to match with people's settings in this thread. |
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-2.6deg front camber -1.8-2.0 rear camber 0deg front toe (total) 0.1-0.2deg rear toe (total) This is a perfectly acceptable street/track setup. If you want more track oriented go higher on the camber, if you want stock-like go with less camber. This setup is fine for tire wear on the street but will still wear the outer edge of tires before the inside (not quite balanced inside to outside). The toe allows for no craziness on the freeways but still feels good at 145mph going hard into a brake zone.
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Not relevant with the factory or other non adjustable suspension.
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On my stock car, adding that little bit of additional positive rear toe (ie rear toe in) was very helpful. My car came from factory with almost zero rear toe and adding the toe in helped with stability on corner exit |
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Toe eats tires much faster than camber. This is a good 'set and forget' setpoint |
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Anyone know what the factory camber and toe are for the M3 CS?
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Thanks all. Going to leverage some of these settings.
Separately, for those who corner balanced - how much leeway is there in the stock suspension to allow for balancing without preloading sways, etc.? Put another way, with a mild drop should one not even bother corner balancing the car without also having the full set of adjustable end links and adjustable toe links? |
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Why is everyone so focused on increasing camber only? Isn't anyone increasing caster to avoid wearing out the inside of the tires and get better breaking performance?
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You'll have to explain that one to me... I don't see how caster can do that.
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Same as all the others.
Only the GTS has different alignment specs.
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Coming from an E36, -2.3 to -3.0 sounds extremely low. I'm guessing due to weight, the camber is a lot less or is this because the lack of adjustability that Bmw offers with OEM control arms? Anyone know the camber numbers on the GT4 cars?
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Thanks for the education -- caster has always been something difficult to wrap my head around. |
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I didnt know there was camber plates with caster adjustment as well. My TCKline ones just had camber and caster change incorporated into the same movement of the strut. It provided quite a big improvement to caster if I remember correctly.
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What is your caster setting?
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