BMW M4 DTM Champion Edition Announced to Celebrate 2016 DTM Champion Marco Wittman

[M4_GTS]

Originally Posted by Fahrvergnügen

Although I sort of agree with the analogies pointed out, I was merely representing the strategy Porsche took between the 911 GT3 Rs and 911R, neither of which are pointed out in the above by the way. Porsche knew they needed to differentiate them in a way so the RS does not lose value and is different from a driving PoV; however, BMW has not really differentiated the Mark Whitman and GTS all that much which is strange to me. The part about the amount of different M4 models was merely for the M4 and not the 4 series, so comparing the basic 911 versions are not that relevant.

But yes, middle finger to GTS owners from BMW. The engine is special but now in a 'different model' with the same basic setup.

I would be ok if they used that water injection thing in like a M3 CRT/CSL whatever or next generation cars. But to do it on another M4 is just greed.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by lemetier

The Euro List price is it. The current currency conversion rate in any market is the local price. The 200 Cars are first come first serve and orders can be confirmed as I type this. There are enough collectors around the globe that will have these all spoken for quite within a day or two.

Not necessarily true. Prices are adjusted for local markets.

For instance, the GTS was listed at 142,600EUR in Germany while it is listed at 153,000CAD in Canada (116,500EUR).

[M4_GTS]

Originally Posted by theroadrunner

black 666s, niiiiiice

It's in the article that the wheels are Orbit Grey. Same color as some of the F3x m-sport wheels.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by M4_GTS

I would be ok if they used that water injection thing in like a M3 CRT/CSL whatever or next generation cars. But to do it on another M4 is just greed.

I have a feeling we will be seeing this 500hp version of the S55 in more M4 variants .

BTW, I don't think it "de-values" the GTS. For instance, this DTM editions has an MSRP in the same bracket as the GTS

[M4_GTS]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I have a feeling we will be seeing this 500hp version of the S55 in more M4 variants .

BTW, I don't think it "de-values" the GTS. For instance, this DTM editions has an MSRP in the same bracket as the GTS

I totally agree. It will most likely be without the GTS aero parts and rollcage and interior and not in limited numbers. All of which would set it apart from the M4 GTS. But this champion edition is just too much of a GTS and there is not much differences except for the aero parts.

It just feels like there are now 700 M4 GTS + 200 M4 GTS "champion edition". Not too worried about the resale price of the M4 GTS, but it feels just a little less "exclusive" now. If you know what I mean. Like another member said, these 2 models are too "similar"

[elons335i]

Lol. Another LM. Why not

[Bmw doubles]

Those stripes are so gheeeey

[antzcrashing]

Pretty cool

[///Mobbin]

Originally Posted by M4_GTS

I totally agree. It will most likely be without the GTS aero parts and rollcage and interior and not in limited numbers. All of which would set it apart from the M4 GTS. But this champion edition is just too much of a GTS and there is not much differences except for the aero parts.

It just feels like there are now 700 M4 GTS + 200 M4 GTS "champion edition". Not too worried about the resale price of the M4 GTS, but it feels just a little less "exclusive" now. If you know what I mean. Like another member said, these 2 models are too "similar"

As someone in the market for a special M car I am confused but this one. Give me a no aero M2/M3/M4 CSL already and take my money BMW! (I will also gladly take an M2 GTS or M3 CRT.)

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by elons335i

Lol. Another LM. Why not

Limited M5s, M4s, soon probably M2s too. I remember a web article criticizing Porsche's marketing ploy with Turbo S. Turbo used to be top of the line, but to squeeze out more profit, Porsche came out the "S" version, so now people who drives the Turbo, instead of driving a top end Porsche, just became the people who can't afford Turbo S.

It's ok to make a small run of limited cars, but when you start to make too many of them out of production cars, the limited now becomes the new standard car, and basically is segregating people into those who can afford the "real" M4 and those who can't.

[inFamousKicks]

Those Comp wheels look so good in black.

[Mingwan]

looks cool and all, but they're really milking these cars out like ford does with their mustang (or at least, used to do).

Waiting for the M4 California Edition.

[elons335i]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

Limited M5s, M4s, soon probably M2s too. I remember a web article criticizing Porsche's marketing ploy with Turbo S. Turbo used to be top of the line, but to squeeze out more profit, Porsche came out the "S" version, so now people who drives the Turbo, instead of driving a top end Porsche, just became the people who can't afford Turbo S.

It's ok to make a small run of limited cars, but when you start to make too many of them out of production cars, the limited now becomes the new standard car, and basically is segregating people into those who can afford the "real" M4 and those who can't.

I'm not arguing marketing, aesthetics or cost..rather stating the obvious, there seems to be a new limited M car every few weeks in the last six months; or, maybe it's my luck reading the news here.

As for the run of the mill M car comment and segregating cost segments vs affordability to the masses, I don't know....

No clue what this is going to cost at dealer lots, but the M4 gts may as well not be for sale at all. For what dealers are trying to unload them for, you are well in the Lamborghini category, and that's no three aghem four series.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by elons335i

No clue what this is going to cost at dealer lots, but the M4 gts may as well not be for sale at all. For what dealers are trying to unload them for, you are well in the Lamborghini category, and that's no three aghem four series.

LOL cost at Dealer Lots

[mrduder]

Is there any difference between this and the GTS then??? :

[M4_GTS]

Originally Posted by mrduder

Is there any difference between this and the GTS then??? :

The differences are the following for this car:

- uses the M Performance front lip and rear wing.
- got carbon fiber canards.
- looks like carbon fiber pieces taped on the side skirts
- have special decals.
- doesn't have acid orange accent.
- wheels painted dark grey
- roll bar painted white

so pretty much a M4 GTS clone. So I call it the M4 GTS Champion Edition.

[1bmwaddict]

its about time for bmw to start offering the whiteline tail light and the smoke or black headlight too

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by M4_GTS

The differences are the following for this car:

- uses the M Performance front lip and rear wing.
- got carbon fiber canards.
- looks like carbon fiber pieces taped on the side skirts
- have special decals.
- doesn't have acid orange accent.
- wheels painted dark grey
- roll bar painted white

so pretty much a M4 GTS clone. So I call it the M4 GTS Champion Edition.

It's also slightly more expensive and even more limited, GTS is now inferior, DTM edition is the new king until the next limited edition shows up.

[SeanWRT]

A less cheap way of announcing a production extension of a "limited" model.

Well...they can take credit for finally finding a color for 666 that works.

[M-Pilot]

I like this one better than the GTS. Especially those black wheels and the absence of the snow plower are on point!

[bholler]

Nice...stickers? It's ok, best part for me is the seats. I agree with earlier post full redbull decals would be better and more race-ish.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by SeanWRT

A less cheap way of announcing a production extension of a "limited" model.

Well...they can take credit for finally finding a color for 666 that works.

Yeah, BMW probably was surprised by the number of people who are willing to pay at least double for a souped up M4 (frankly so was I, look at those crazy markups), so why stop at 700?