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Dare I say that boxer sounds better than the S55? Also forgot to mention, those STIs seemed to really, really, really hold their value from what I've heard? |
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07-10-2019, 09:38 AM | #24 | |
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The car I drove, 1 year old with 2500 miles, was listed for $38,200. Brand new it was about in mid $39K. I'm all about that resale value, but what the hell haha. Plenty of 10 year old examples still in mid to high 20s. Insane. |
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07-10-2019, 09:54 AM | #25 |
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I had a subie back in the day (saab 92x) fully modded to stage 2. Mods are so cheap for that car and theres a million options for you to choose from. Its a fun car and awd comes in handy but some things just bothered me every time I sat in it.
Low torque. Granted I had the EJ20 so it was weaker but I hated always playing catch up all the time at a light. Sure once the turbo kicked in it moved pretty good but under 3K it was lethargic Interior looked ok but it feels cheap and hollow. Makes you feel like you are sitting in a hollow tin can. I added a ton of sound insulation myself which helped but still wasn't anywhere as solid as BMW Door dings - the exterior panels were so thin it would ding if you looked at it wrong. Same with the thin paint. All in all i spent a lot of time trying to make it like a BMW but at the end it was impossible. Alan
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07-10-2019, 10:09 AM | #26 | |
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I feel you on the low end torque comment. In my opinion, the problem was the WRX's gearing with the 5 speed. My '09 was much more powerful in stock form, and the 5-60 was still atrocious. But once it hit 3500 RPM it punched so hard to redline. However, the STI gearing is so much more aggressive that it really did not feel that way to me, at least enough for me to notice on the test drive. 2nd gear went to 59 mph vs. my old WRX at 72 mph. On the interior - well, it is a Subaru. I don't think anyone can make it a BMW if they tried. But for the price, I was satisfied with it. Interiors just don't bother me that much one way or another. Step into a 90s/ early 2000s Chevy interior - those are miserable. |
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07-10-2019, 10:19 AM | #27 |
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If you're looking at getting the 20 STI then go for it. I wouldn't get the Type R like others have mentioned. It's FWD and won't compare to AWD when it comes to feel and handling. It also looks overly exaggerated in all of it's lines and angles. I had 2011 Evo X and loved hating on the Subies Miss those days...
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07-10-2019, 10:24 AM | #28 | |
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I don't mind the new Subie interiors, they actually aren't that bad. |
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07-10-2019, 11:25 AM | #29 |
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Just some casual browsing about the car, it looks like a new fifth gen is coming next model year (2021)....so I guess that would be next summer/late fall? If thinking about one of these cars, I'd certainly wait until then.
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07-10-2019, 11:38 AM | #30 |
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Valid point, but at the rate these puppies depreciate, why wait? I'll probably get a higher trade in value from the old STI than my stripper M3 by that time
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07-10-2019, 12:16 PM | #31 |
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It's insane. People are selling 10 year old ones with 100k miles for over $10k easily. Should be closer to $2k, but no...
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07-10-2019, 01:19 PM | #32 | |
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That said; the M3 is a phenomenal car and has exceeded my expectations! One of the few cars that makes you smile just parked in the driveway! |
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07-10-2019, 04:17 PM | #33 | |
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If those are really the transaction prices that’s Porsche GT car levels of value preservation |
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07-10-2019, 08:01 PM | #34 |
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I would totally have an STI as a DD. It's kind of a throwback in terms of having an analog experience. Old school hydraulic steering, rod actuated shifter, only comes in manual, old school turbo laggy engine that needs to sit up in the revvs to make power. Looks wise it's adolescent looking and the interior materials are lacking the quality of a 40k car. But the AWD system is where they spend the $$. I think they drive great. I say go for it now because the new ones won't offer the same analog driving experience. YMMV
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I had a highly tuned manual 2015 WRX awhile back which I traded for a DSG 2016 Audi S3 which I highly tuned (fun fact, I was featured on a smoking tire one take: ) and then I sold that to get my current manual f80 M3.
I hated the WRX and S3 for its understeer nature, but for some reason I miss the subie the most. The community, ease of mods and general pocket knife attitude of the car was very appealing. I’d take it to the track then take it snowboarding and it wouldn’t even bat an eyelash. I did spend a lot on my wrx to make it wide body so I could put 285/35/18 square to combat understeer, but whatever. Subie life!!! The funny thing is, I’ve always dreamt of buying an M3 and when I finally got it, it wasn’t all that I wanted. Now after a year of getting to know the car, modding it to my tastes and tracking the car more, it’s becoming more endearing. I was seriously shopping for a black 2019 STI before I got my M3, but unfortunately, I live in SoCal and I’m a real estate broker and apparently appearances matter. Actually that was one issue but the main issue was that I wanted that big sti wing! My wife said no and I would never drive an sti without a wing. None of that limited sti bs! I’ll get an sti when I’m older. |
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07-11-2019, 06:47 PM | #37 |
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Oh you want to know another funny thing? When I was making the decision of sti vs M3, all my Subaru friends said M3 hands down. Haha none of them mentioned to buy the sti. Even the friends who worked at Subaru and would’ve gotten a sale from me.
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Try looking at a low mileage clean title EVO IX MR in Wicked White there was one for sale a few years back, proly 2012 ish with 21k~ miles IIRC for 22k$ I should have picked it up and put it in storage |
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Pikka, I think there’s a ton of cars we all wish we picked up (eg warehouse full of 964) |
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i drove an sti about 2 years ago and that genuinely must have been one of the most outdated cars i've been in years
-interior trash -feels bigger than it is - felt slow even for 300hp - the engine is now a million years old the only thing it had going for it was the sound and handling albeit the car felt oddly heavy to me... the car is now long past its prime... wait one more gen
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OP, I had a 17 STI that I used as a daily when I lived in CO (along with my M4 at the time). It’s a great car in the snow, one of the best I’ve driven. On all seasons, I got through some bad storms and never felt unsafe. I miss owning it at times, especially when I hear that boxer rumble.
However, there are a few things about the car I hated. 1. Zero lumbar support. The seats feel nice, but boy are they uncomfortable. I had constant lower back pain. There is no lumbar support in the seats. I eventually found the perfect combo of a lumbar pillow and a towel that I used to support my lower back. 2. It drones. Well, mine came with the SPT exhaust from factory. On long drives, it was awful. No amount of sound dampening really improved the interior cabin noise. It’s a poorly sound dampened car. 3. Gearbox is so-so, 1-2 shifts always felt crunchy at times. Clutch feel was not great. However, heel toe was sooooo fun on that car. Outside of the somewhat crappy gearbox and clutch feel, the ability to heel toe so easily made the driving experience so memorable for me. 4. Very cheap plastic all around. Didn’t bother me much, but definitely a step down if you go from a F8x to a STI. 5. Big wing back there haha my wife hated it. I thought it looked cool. It does attract some attention, some bad, some good. But Subaru owners are really cool though. You get a lot of waves from fellow STI owners. 6. Super thin paint. If you’re paranoid about paint care and maintenance, this one of those cars where you get as much ppf protection in the high impact areas and just forget about it. Those rally armor flaps helped a bit. But it drove me nuts to find a new paint chip every month or so, as I don’t tail gate, always drive 2-3 car lengths behind, etc. It’s a fun car, I loved every minute of my time owning it. I know you’ll never find the perfect car, but I personally would have never traded my M3/4, or my current M2 comp, for a STI. But to add to my garage to use as a daily, particularly if I lived in a 4 seasons part of the States? Oh yea, I’d definitely get one to use as a daily. |
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07-14-2019, 11:57 AM | #44 |
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well i'll weigh in
having owned two current generation STI's i'll weigh in.... I love them, and yes, they are fun as hell, and much more analog than the M2 or F80.
@ntgarage44 , i'm really surprised you didn't mention the steering on the STI. It was one of my favorite things about the STI and what I missed most in moving to an M2. the other thing with the STI that I didn't see mentioned is resale/residual. it is very high and works in your favor if you're buying or leasing a new one. |
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