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      09-09-2022, 06:38 PM   #353
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use 666 for winter. I am also in Philly and use bstone lm32 on my 335 rwd. The biggest issue is freezing rain and ice but it's rare. I drove thru snow and ice on these and they are great. The most important for me is braking and turning when it's icy. If it's really bad outside don't drive cause you might get hit.

also look into bmw recommended winter wheel package and try to be as close as you can. in general you should use narrower tires in winter to improve traction. Many folks also use all season tires like conti but I don't trust them on rwd high tq bimmer when we get 20 deg.

use apex for track. also be careful with current mismatched tires!

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Appreciate the response and advice.

I think I am going to get some all seasons for the 666m's to get through the few months of "Winter" in Philly. If the weather is every even slightly bad I take my truck anyway, just want to make sure I am covered if something weird happens and I get caught in some weather. That will give me some time to figure out what Apex setup I want to do for next summer.

I already did one track day with the mismatched tires and it actually wasnt nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Even one of the instructors who did a few laps in my car said he could feel the front pushing a bit, but not as bad as he would have expected.
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      09-11-2022, 11:14 PM   #354
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use 666 for winter. I am also in Philly and use bstone lm32 on my 335 rwd. The biggest issue is freezing rain and ice but it's rare. I drove thru snow and ice on these and they are great. The most important for me is braking and turning when it's icy. If it's really bad outside don't drive cause you might get hit.

also look into bmw recommended winter wheel package and try to be as close as you can. in general you should use narrower tires in winter to improve traction. Many folks also use all season tires like conti but I don't trust them on rwd high tq bimmer when we get 20 deg.

use apex for track. also be careful with current mismatched tires!

gl
Appreciate the response and advice.

I think I am going to get some all seasons for the 666m's to get through the few months of "Winter" in Philly. If the weather is every even slightly bad I take my truck anyway, just want to make sure I am covered if something weird happens and I get caught in some weather. That will give me some time to figure out what Apex setup I want to do for next summer.

I already did one track day with the mismatched tires and it actually wasnt nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Even one of the instructors who did a few laps in my car said he could feel the front pushing a bit, but not as bad as he would have expected.
ok good

check out conti dws6 plus … my cousin uses them in Toronto
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      10-07-2022, 05:50 PM   #355
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Anyone running a 19x10.5 +22 in the rear on their F8x? Tossed on a set of ARC8's and trying to figure out how to make them fit in the rear when lowered. On 305/30 RT660's right now and it's all good on stock suspension, but no way they'd fit when lowered.
I'm running 19x10.5 ET45 in the rears with 12mm spacers, so essentially ET33 and I still got decent room to add wider spacers. I should have gone with ET22 but Apex support said it would rub. I'm running 285/35/19 tires in the rear and want to up to 295/35/19. Even 285/35, it's got somewhat stretched look and I'd assume 295/35 would be too and may still clear.
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      10-07-2022, 07:46 PM   #356
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I also like Conti DWS06 but they don't fit 666s.

Michelin PSAS4 do come in 265 & 285/30R20.
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      10-09-2022, 11:59 AM   #357
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Anyone running a 19x10.5 +22 in the rear on their F8x? Tossed on a set of ARC8's and trying to figure out how to make them fit in the rear when lowered. On 305/30 RT660's right now and it's all good on stock suspension, but no way they'd fit when lowered.
I'm running 19x10.5 ET45 in the rears with 12mm spacers, so essentially ET33 and I still got decent room to add wider spacers. I should have gone with ET22 but Apex support said it would rub. I'm running 285/35/19 tires in the rear and want to up to 295/35/19. Even 285/35, it's got somewhat stretched look and I'd assume 295/35 would be too and may still clear.
So everyone said I would rub, including apex when I called and spoke with them a while back trying to figure out how to make it work.

Lowered on EMD springs,

19x10.5 +22 in the rear with a 275/35/19. Probably gonna try out a 285/30 next time, but this fits and does not rub.
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      10-09-2022, 09:38 PM   #358
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So everyone said I would rub, including apex when I called and spoke with them a while back trying to figure out how to make it work.

Lowered on EMD springs,

19x10.5 +22 in the rear with a 275/35/19. Probably gonna try out a 285/30 next time, but this fits and does not rub.
does not rub driving around town or on track? think it's important to make that distinction. agree apex fitment guide errs on the conservative side (for good reason).
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Many of the setups we don't recommend like the 19x10.5 ET22 wheels in the rear can work with stretched tires or a modified alignment, but we tend to be conservative on the guides especially. The 19x11 ET44 lets you easily run a much wider tire and is our default recommendation to run wider 305 section tires.

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Anyone running 18x10 +25 square with KW HAS? I saw folks rubbing it with KW V3 coilovers and read that the KW HAS has given folks an issue up front even with a 5mm spacer. Just seeing if anyone was successful and what spacer was required. Thanks!
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Anyone running 18x10 +25 square with KW HAS? I saw folks rubbing it with KW V3 coilovers and read that the KW HAS has given folks an issue up front even with a 5mm spacer. Just seeing if anyone was successful and what spacer was required. Thanks!
Hi there,

Generally speaking, the KW HAS kit has inherently worse clearance compared to the KW V3 full coilover kit. However, it is difficult to quantify, as clearance can depend on where you have the height adjustment collar set on either suspension setup.

That said, KW V3s can typically clear the 18x10" ET25 when using 5mm spacers. Though, KW HAS can still have clearance issues even with the 5mm spacer. In most cases, we recommend running the 18x9.5" ET22 with KW HAS to ensure no inner clearance issues occur.

If you have any other questions, please let me know!

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      11-05-2022, 05:48 PM   #362
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Got it. Thank you so much!!
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      11-09-2022, 04:37 PM   #363
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Anyone running 18x10 +25 square with KW HAS? I saw folks rubbing it with KW V3 coilovers and read that the KW HAS has given folks an issue up front even with a 5mm spacer. Just seeing if anyone was successful and what spacer was required. Thanks!

I got front ARC-8ís 19x10 ET25 wrapped on 275/35/19, MPerformance HAS kit (same as KW) and the 5mm spacers donít work, they donít clear the suspension.

I went up to 10mm, no suspension rubbing, just a slight rubbing because of ride height, but now Iím trying 8mm to see how it works, still no rubbing against the suspension but I still need to evaluate the height related rubbing, I really don't want to get the car higher lol.
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      11-21-2022, 11:57 AM   #364
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The black Friday sale is alive !

That said, what's a good size people are using for 19" that can clear a future upgrade to ccb/bbk? I'm currently on the mp has and only plan to upgrade the struts in the future.
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      11-21-2022, 10:27 PM   #365
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The black Friday sale is alive !

That said, what's a good size people are using for 19" that can clear a future upgrade to ccb/bbk? I'm currently on the mp has and only plan to upgrade the struts in the future.


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      11-22-2022, 08:58 PM   #366
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Ordered some bronze 18 inch vs 5rs s . Can't wait for them to show up!
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      12-01-2022, 01:32 AM   #367
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I got front ARC-8ís 19x10 ET25 wrapped on 275/35/19, MPerformance HAS kit (same as KW) and the 5mm spacers donít work, they donít clear the suspension.

I went up to 10mm, no suspension rubbing, just a slight rubbing because of ride height, but now Iím trying 8mm to see how it works, still no rubbing against the suspension but I still need to evaluate the height related rubbing, I really don't want to get the car higher lol.
Thanks for the feedback!! I ended up going with 18x9.5+22 Front and 18x11+44 Rear

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Black Friday sale was awesome. Ended up ordering EC-7ís in Race Silver with 18x9.5+22 for front and 18x11+44 for rear. Also ordered 5mm spacers in silver and 33mm extended bolts in black just in case rubs (shouldnít) or if I want it to be more flush. Should be delivered tomorrow. Tires are on order and I went with 265/35/18 front and 295/35/18 rear Nitto NT05ís which should arrive sometime next week. Canít wait to get mounted/balanced and put on. Iíll definitely post up pics after.

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Can anyone on EMD springs recommend a 265/35/19 or 275/30 front to go with 305/30 Rear?

I like even wheel gap and worried the 275/30 will drop my lip onto the ground but worried the 265 might rub.

285/30 seems like a good middle ground OD, but a bit wide for a 9.5Ē

255/35 seems like the safe choice but then I donít like it when there is some stretch in front without it in the rear, Iíd probably do a 275/35 rear instead to keep the look even

Iím mostly about aesthetics, not a race car driver

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Got my new set put on today. Love it!!! Ended up having to use the 5mm spacer and extended bolts even with 18x9.5+22. Tire was rubbing slightly on the spring perch. Ordered another set of 5mm spacers and extended bolts because the rears could be more flush. Maybe if I went with 305/35/18 it would have looked better.
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A few better pics from today Love them!!
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Can anyone on EMD springs recommend a 265/35/19 or 275/30 front to go with 305/30 Rear?

I like even wheel gap and worried the 275/30 will drop my lip onto the ground but worried the 265 might rub.
285/30 seems like a good middle ground OD, but a bit wide for a 9.5Ē

255/35 seems like the safe choice but then I donít like it when there is some stretch in front without it in the rear, Iíd probably do a 275/35 rear instead to keep the look even

Iím mostly about aesthetics, not a race car driver

I ended up with 265/35/19 and it works and looks perfect no rubbing

It also leveled out the EMD springs (w/ spring spacer) with 305/30 out back, stock 255/40/18 275/40/18 had a lot of rake

Iíll get better pics once itís warm enough to clean this thing up



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I ended up with 265/35/19 and it works and looks perfect no rubbing

It also leveled out the EMD springs (w/ spring spacer) with 305/30 out back, stock 255/40/18 275/40/18 had a lot of rake

Iíll get better pics once itís warm enough to clean this thing up


Do you think 275/35/19 will fit the front with +20 offset without rubbing with swift springs?
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Do you think 275/35/19 will fit the front with +20 offset without rubbing with swift springs?
Last post in this thread,

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1348265

but I think itíll be close and depend on tire brand as to whether it rubs or not
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