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thank you. So since my car is EU - then the options available there are all EU variants:
3000 DSC_CODIERDATEN_ALLGEMEIN, 20 > Funktionen > C_Variante_Fahrzeug_e a. Stock M3 ZCP Coding = F80_CP b. M3 CS Coding = F82_GTS c. M4 CS Coding = F82_GTS Or is there any other setting? |
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More slip before it intervenes. Intervenes less abrubtly. Has a higher speed threshold before it matches full DSC.
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Thinking about coding my '18 M4 ZCP 6MT with EURO MDM and GTS/CS etc.
I completely understand the difference of feel and drive-ability after upgrading the iStep software from a '17 build to March 2020 build. The car completely performed differently and for the better. My question, that iStep software upgrade was built & designed for the same m4 model and hardware... what is or is there a difference in hardware between the CS, GTS and ZCP (base) models WRT the Steering and Differential? I know the GTS has fixed suspension, is there a major hardware difference between the CS and ZCP (base) models WRT to EDC/suspension? My biggest reservation is applying GTS/CS coding to the differential, steering or EDC and overtime increasing the chance of breakdown or wear and tear because the software coding was specifically designed or meant for that hardware. All the hardware may, at the base, may be the same and then is purely a software change (which I can believe after updating my iStep to the 2020 build). However if the CS DIFF/Steering/EDC coding is soooo much better, why wouldn't BMW just apply it to the ZCP models as well... aside from wanting more money. Also thoughts on the coding behind the CS being more up to date (and better) than the GTS coding due to time of design and build (CS being years newer)? |
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Hardware wise, dampers are the same on the ZCP and the CS. I do believe CS has softer front way bars but I believe that is it. I could be wrong but I recall the hardware being the same with minor parts swapped here and there for fine tuning. I've been running GTS settings with CS EDC for years with no adverse effects.
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BMW wants people to pay them for performance, which is why the same engine/trans/diff is in the Base, ZCP, CS and GTS. Also ZCP and CS share the same dampers. Pick what coding you like since the parts are made to interchange... MDM is the intervention level on corners and slopes. Our "US MDM" intervenes a lot, and "Euro MDM" less so. Ask Alex for his special "even more open Euro MDM" which has even less intrusion. After a while you will start to drive in no-nanny mode with DCT fully off and learn where your wheel slip is. CS and GTS steering are more track oriented and have a heavier effort to steer and a stronger return to center. CS is mild and GTS more so. I don't like the go-kart feel and prefer my stock steering. You need to read up on the CS versus ZCP damping. Most guys like the CS for better rebound, but I'm no pro on this. I have Base EDC which can't code for ZCP/EDC. CS and GTS differential...just take GTS. It maximizes the speed and force of the positraction rear engaging when you stomp on it. CS may have a smoother action on track coming out of corners...dunno. There is also DCT coding...but we both have stick shift. Included in the hundred bucks is all the other coding stuff like mirror folding on lock, brake light flash (on panic stop), angel eye brightness, and a bunch of other stuff (make your dash say GTS, change door ding to harp [better], disable all the startup warnings...it goes on).
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Hellokitty and TopJimmy, thanks so much, exactly what I was looking for.
For my ‘18 ZCP M4 6MT, looking at GTS: Diff, Steering, MDM and CS: EDC. Last question, with the GTS/ CS(EDC), how is the comfort modes WRT steering and suspension? Is it daily driver comfortable? Or along with sport +, is it ramped up in performance/rigidity as well? |
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These things love to oversteer all through the corner, so I get it, but you lose huge chunks of time when running with the systems on. |
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Steering coding is independent of EDC coding.
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Note: Thor does not code EDC, but I've got a base F80 so I'm not too concerned about that.
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I also believe that hardware and software will yield better performance when properly matched. The GTS software is optimized for the GTS hardware and might not yield the most optimal result when paired with CS or CP hardware. You are correct, M4cs uses Comp Pack suspension hardware except for the regular front swaybar for reduced understeer.
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I believe all GTS dampers are manual adjust, not EDC, so coding doesn't apply.
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