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      07-20-2019, 06:43 PM   #67
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Here's my build https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui/...vette/c5a90ded
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My wife is in shock that I'm considering a Vette for my next car but it's happening
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Placed my deposit yesterday. Can't wait!

Here's my build https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui/...vette/c5a90ded
Looks sick!

My wife is in shock that I'm considering a Vette for my next car but it's happening
Lol my wife said the same thing until I showed her the videos. She couldn't Believe how good it looks.
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Placed my deposit yesterday. Can't wait!

Here's my build https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui/...vette/c5a90ded
Looks sick!

My wife is in shock that I'm considering a Vette for my next car but it's happening
Lol my wife said the same thing until I showed her the videos. She couldn't Believe how good it looks.
Haha. Same here. I was like check this thing out babe it looks like a Lambo and has the Performance to match for a fraction of the cost.

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      07-20-2019, 06:54 PM   #70
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I wonder if the price of a C7 dropped by $10K this weekend.
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possible m4 replacement for a few years until the next gen m4 is out? hmmmmm
Dude. Have seen that grill on the new M3 render? Horrendous.

Next Gen M4 is out for me if it's gonna look like that.

Count me in on the new Vette!
That grill does scare me. No bueno.
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My M4 lease is up in June 2020 and right now C8 is on the top of the list. There are some styling elements that brother me but I can’t ignore the performance for probably ~$80k fully loaded. The new M3 render is horrendous, there’s no way I would get it if it looks like that. My ideal C8 build:

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My last Corvette was a '64. This one is definitely intriguing. At my age, I'm gonna have to check the ingress & egress.
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I would never even consider a Vette. Until now.
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My last Corvette was a '64. This one is definitely intriguing. At my age, I'm gonna have to check the ingress & egress.
Reportedly a benefit of the design, from Jalopnik:

Chevrolet expounds on this last bit in its press release, saying the low rockers allow for easy ingress and egress. “Unlike some competitors,” Chevy says, “there’s no need for oversized rocker panels to bear structural and load weights, making it easier to enter and exit the vehicle.”
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My last Corvette was a '64. This one is definitely intriguing. At my age, I'm gonna have to check the ingress & egress.
Reportedly a benefit of the design, from Jalopnik:

Chevrolet expounds on this last bit in its press release, saying the low rockers allow for easy ingress and egress. “Unlike some competitors,” Chevy says, “there’s no need for oversized rocker panels to bear structural and load weights, making it easier to enter and exit the vehicle.”
I saw the same thing in this Leno video. See at 6:25:

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Dude. Have seen that grill on the new M3 render? Horrendous.

Next Gen M4 is out for me if it's gonna look like that.

Count me in on the new Vette!
I just can't believe it will look like that. This is almost like the M3 truck April fools from years back. There are numerous potential design evolutions from the F8X that would be amazing. They'd be nuts to go with something like this... Industrial wall vent front end isn't avant-garde.



Arctic white C8 with black trident wheels, carbon roof, yellow calipers, full aero looks amazing https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui/...vette/7618d03c
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I saw the same thing in this Leno video. See at 6:25:

Saw that too, followed by him going full trust fall into the car.
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Dude. Have seen that grill on the new M3 render? Horrendous.

Next Gen M4 is out for me if it's gonna look like that.

Count me in on the new Vette!
I just can't believe it will look like that. This is almost like the M3 truck April fools from years back. There are numerous potential design evolutions from the F8X that would be amazing. They'd be nuts to go with something like this... Industrial wall vent front end isn't avant-garde.



Arctic white C8 with black trident wheels, carbon roof, yellow calipers, full aero looks amazing https://visualizer.chevrolet.com/ui/...vette/7618d03c
I hope your right man. That thing is atrocious. The new Vette on the other hand looks amazing.

I kinda knew this day was coming. BMW is more concerned with "electric mobility" then "The Ultimate Driving Machine".

Time will tell but it's not looking good. I'm picking up a 2020 ///M4 at the PC this Friday. Could be my last BMW.

ZF Auto, shit front end, AWD (Audi) is just not appealing to me!
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I hope your right man. That thing is atrocious. The new Vette on the other hand looks amazing.

I kinda knew this day was coming. BMW is more concerned with "electric mobility" then "The Ultimate Driving Machine".

Time will tell but it's not looking good. I'm picking up a 2020 ///M4 at the PC this Friday. Could be my last BMW.

ZF Auto, shit front end, AWD (Audi) is just not appealing to me!
Congrats on the '20.

2 rwd m cars, so I can accept m xdrive on the G80. It won't handle like an Audi. The F90 front axle is excellent (even pushed on track), so confident the G80 will be just fine there. The awd does change the driving approach though, makes it less challenging and entertaining, imo. The F90 is pretty GTR mid corner to corner exit.

But if they destroy the styling like this I can't follow.

agree the overall direction is discouraging -- in the era of C8, more power from a turbocharged engine + awd seems feeble. It will achieve acceleration numbers and post amazing lap times (awd), but if you've been around since e36/e46/e39 era, that just seems empty.
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I hope your right man. That thing is atrocious. The new Vette on the other hand looks amazing.

I kinda knew this day was coming. BMW is more concerned with "electric mobility" then "The Ultimate Driving Machine".

Time will tell but it's not looking good. I'm picking up a 2020 ///M4 at the PC this Friday. Could be my last BMW.

ZF Auto, shit front end, AWD (Audi) is just not appealing to me!
Congrats on the '20.

2 rwd m cars, so I can accept m xdrive on the G80. It won't handle like an Audi. The F90 front axle is excellent (even pushed on track), so confident the G80 will be just fine there. The awd does change the driving approach though, makes it less challenging and entertaining, imo. The F90 is pretty GTR mid corner to corner exit.

But if they destroy the styling like this I can't follow.

agree the overall direction is discouraging -- in the era of C8, more power from a turbocharged engine + awd seems feeble. It will achieve acceleration numbers and post amazing lap times (awd), but if you've been around since e36/e46/e39 era, that just seems empty.
Thanks man.

Feeble is a perfect word for what's going on.

I'm just having a hard time getting behind BMWs cars/decisions as of late. I think they are going down a losing road. Time will tell.
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I think people have to be cautious in such a radical new redesign, dont forget this is a Chevy. I'm sure alot of mechanical and design related issues will crop up the first year of the model so waiting one or two years for Chevy to work out all of the bugs is the prudent path.

Servicing the car will be more complex and costly. Its too bad they didnt announce a preferred ownership program tailored for premium service and care for the vehicle to give owners a better dealership experience.
+1 Chevy dealerships can even do a proper oil change. Techs pulling only one drain plug instead of both and then overfilling the oil cause they think they drained alll the oil.
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One of the things I sometimes like about my M4 is that it can fly a little under the radar when I don't want to be 'in your face with my sports car.' There is certainly no getting around that idea if you pull up in the new Corvette. I have a Jeep Cherokee I can drive as needed, but the M4 would certainly seem to make a better every day driver than the vette and I drive my M4 80/20 vs my Jeep. Its definitely tempting though.
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+1 Chevy dealerships can even do a proper oil change. Techs pulling only one drain plug instead of both and then overfilling the oil cause they think they drained alll the oil.
I've had just a few BMW service stories over the years... Bad dealership mechanics everywhere
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Congrats on the '20.

2 rwd m cars, so I can accept m xdrive on the G80. It won't handle like an Audi. The F90 front axle is excellent (even pushed on track), so confident the G80 will be just fine there. The awd does change the driving approach though, makes it less challenging and entertaining, imo. The F90 is pretty GTR mid corner to corner exit.

But if they destroy the styling like this I can't follow.

agree the overall direction is discouraging -- in the era of C8, more power from a turbocharged engine + awd seems feeble. It will achieve acceleration numbers and post amazing lap times (awd), but if you've been around since e36/e46/e39 era, that just seems empty.
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Things I hate:
Regular automatics
AWD
Electric power steering
Turbo engines

Then I drive the F90 Comp hard back to back with the DCT M3 and the auto shifts really well and the AWD seems to only do good things and not piss me off

I dislike the overall direction of M from a theoretical perspective, but then heavily track the current generation and it's everything I could ask for. They are still getting the basics right, consistently

On paper the C8 is wonderful, but the previous Z06 was also wonderful and it turned out to be a steaming turd for track use because they screwed up on the cooling. I hope the C8 Z06 will fix this but I'm not confident.
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