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      10-07-2018, 03:31 PM   #1
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Bootmod3 non-ZCP / ZCP (Comp) / CS / BM3-CS / BM3 STG1 91OCT dyno results

So I finally had the time to get some real dyno graphs on the same day.

All maps were run 3 times to let adaptions kick in. We did first pull, gave it 5-6 minutes, then 2 runs where power was more or less identical, but differing from first pull.

The first picture shows all the runs we had with appropriate names on them.

Test car is an M3 F80 DCT EU spec. Stock car with K&N filters.

The following maps were tested:
  • Non ZCP 431HP
    ZCP 450HP
    CS 460HP
    BM3 CS (slightly overpowered)
    Bootmod3 OTS Stage 1 91OCT

All runs were done in Engine on sport plus, Manual mode 5th gear and on Shell V-Power 100RON(93OCT), but it appears on the logs that the fuel is not that great

Made a short video of how to set the car in dynomode prior to doing the pulls, my video editting skills were put to the test



Logs shown are 3rd pull so adaptions were settled more or less:

Stock log: https://services.bootmod3.net/log?id...0b4353a30a1135

ZCP(Competition 450HP): https://services.bootmod3.net/log?id...0b4353a30a1143

OEM CS: https://services.bootmod3.net/log?id...0b4353a30a112f

Bootmod3 CS: https://services.bootmod3.net/log?id...0b4353a30a1159

Stage 1 91 octane: https://services.bootmod3.net/log?id...0b4353a30a1163
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Compared 4th gear to 5th too!
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These days, a tune alone gets you 500+whp on a dynojet LOL

BTW, base and ZCP logs seem less aggressive than what's normally seen.
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These days, a tune alone gets you 500+whp on a dynojet LOL

BTW, base and ZCP logs seem less aggressive than what's normally seen.
Actually even these are aggressive. So I logged it on the road and boost is way lower!

ZCP (Competition): https://services.bootmod3.net/log?id...0b4365a7304132

BTW, my 4th cylinder timing isn't following the others, not even on a stock map unsure if it is the injector causing this. Will order a new one very soon
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you sir are a champion, how you liking the m3 compared to the m6?

Strange how OEM map targets 18.4 psi @ 7k with 11 deg
and M4 CS map is 15.5 psi @ 7k with 14 deg and still manages a few more horsepower at the same RPM
suppose they do that to manage the heat, same power less boost well assuming you have the octane to support the timing


When are those PS2+ going in?

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These days, a tune alone gets you 500+whp on a dynojet LOL

BTW, base and ZCP logs seem less aggressive than what's normally seen.
Actually Not my figures are exactly what Halim get's
my stock logs on crap 91octane at 5500ft Altitude

http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5a1466e7d10b4326e9a3377c

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http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5afe3e76d10b435e87b2df42
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you sir are a champion, how you liking the m3 compared to the m6?

Strange how OEM map targets 18.4 psi @ 7k with 11 deg
and M4 CS map is 15.5 psi @ 7k with 14 deg and still manages a few more horsepower at the same RPM
suppose they do that to manage the heat, same power less boost well assuming you have the octane to support the timing


When are those PS2+ going in?
Throttle isn't 100% open either. Also it has more changes than just boost and timing, vanos is changed too.

Pistons and rods should land today
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Nice man! Would love to see 1/4 times across all these tune iterations but this is will suffice.

is the Stage 1 the latest version? If so any dramatic changes between that and an older version of stage 1?
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Nice man! Would love to see 1/4 times across all these tune iterations but this is will suffice.

is the Stage 1 the latest version? If so any dramatic changes between that and an older version of stage 1?
We don't do much 1/4 mile here. We test a lot of 100-200 km/h.
Stock is around 9.3-9.4 sec
ZCP 8.8-9.0
CS 8.2-8.6
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Throttle isn't 100% open either. Also it has more changes than just boost and timing, vanos is changed too.

Pistons and rods should land today
oh nice!!!
going big power, the correct way to do it

for sure the vanos changes make a difference, i am sure the CS map has allot of vanos and lift similar to GTS
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oh nice!!!
going big power, the correct way to do it

for sure the vanos changes make a difference, i am sure the CS map has allot of vanos and lift similar to GTS
Lift is actually the same, vanos is changed over "stock 431HP" yes.

If you got bm3 you can import the GTS map into your stock 431 (if you own an S55 431 ofcourse) and see the differences.
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We don't do much 1/4 mile here. We test a lot of 100-200 km/h.
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I assume that is the STG1 91OCT, how about the 93OCT?
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I assume that is the STG1 91OCT, how about the 93OCT?
It was done on 100RON which is around 93OCT, but as I stated in the first post. The octane wasn't as great as they advertise it, maybe closer to 91OCT.

My guess is a tad faster But again, you have stock S55 doing 10.0 100-200, so it's always best to measure it stock then tune - Like on a dyno!
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We don't do much 1/4 mile here. We test a lot of 100-200 km/h.
Stock is around 9.3-9.4 sec
ZCP 8.8-9.0
CS 8.2-8.6
BM3 CS 8.0-8.3
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It was done on 100RON which is around 93OCT, but as I stated in the first post. The octane wasn't as great as they advertise it, maybe closer to 91OCT.

My guess is a tad faster But again, you have stock S55 doing 10.0 100-200, so it's always best to measure it stock then tune - Like on a dyno!
Yep I agree folks should start seeing results in their own car with Dynojet or Dragy
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We don't do much 1/4 mile here. We test a lot of 100-200 km/h.
Stock is around 9.3-9.4 sec
ZCP 8.8-9.0
CS 8.2-8.6
BM3 CS 8.0-8.3
BM3 STG1 6.8-7.0
I am susprised with the numbers posted above for the CP. Doing a survery of different European magazine I came up with the following average results:

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On this quiet, cold and rainy Sunday afternoon, I had a little time to kill. So I set out to capture test results from European publications (mostly German) for acceleration to compare the different M4 variants. To remove the effect of the added grip at launch provided by PSC2 when the cars are so fitted, I only set out to capture the 100 to 200km/h acceleration. I compiled 21 different tests and then averaged the results for each M4 variant (DCT only). While this is not the most scientific approach, it does provide a decent perspective. Here are the results:

100km/h - 200km/h acceleration
9.52 M4 Base (6 samples)
.... ∆ 0.20
9.32 M4 CP (9 samples)
.... ∆ 0.67
8.65 M4 CS (4 samples)
.... ∆ 0.20
8.45 M4 GTS (2 samples)

First, I think this dispels the rumours that the CP is not any quicker than the base model, having a ~0.2 second advantage from 100 to 200km/h. Second, it also shows how the CS pulls quite strongly in the top end, being ~0.7 seconds faster than the CP and only ~0.2 seconds short of the mighty water injected GTS. Which is in line with the conclusion reached in the OP when looking at the power charts .
Further, according to your dynos, the CS would not be much faster than a CP on a 100-200km/h as it makes almost the same aversge power in the power band, which is inconsistent with the above results.
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We don't do much 1/4 mile here. We test a lot of 100-200 km/h.
Stock is around 9.3-9.4 sec
ZCP 8.8-9.0
CS 8.2-8.6
BM3 CS 8.0-8.3
BM3 STG1 6.8-7.0
I am susprised with the numbers posted above for the CP. Doing a survery of different European magazine I came up with the following average results:

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3 View Post
On this quiet, cold and rainy Sunday afternoon, I had a little time to kill. So I set out to capture test results from European publications (mostly German) for acceleration to compare the different M4 variants. To remove the effect of the added grip at launch provided by PSC2 when the cars are so fitted, I only set out to capture the 100 to 200km/h acceleration. I compiled 21 different tests and then averaged the results for each M4 variant (DCT only). While this is not the most scientific approach, it does provide a decent perspective. Here are the results:

100km/h - 200km/h acceleration
9.52 M4 Base (6 samples)
.... ∆ 0.20
9.32 M4 CP (9 samples)
.... ∆ 0.67
8.65 M4 CS (4 samples)
.... ∆ 0.20
8.45 M4 GTS (2 samples)

First, I think this dispels the rumours that the CP is not any quicker than the base model, having a ~0.2 second advantage from 100 to 200km/h. Second, it also shows how the CS pulls quite strongly in the top end, being ~0.7 seconds faster than the CP and only ~0.2 seconds short of the mighty water injected GTS. Which is in line with the conclusion reached in the OP when looking at the power charts .
Further, according to your dynos, the CS would not be much faster than a CP on a 100-200km/h as it makes almost the same aversge power in the power band, which is inconsistent with the above results.
I second this.

From dyno and also proved by datalog, there is little difference across base, cp and cs above 6k rpm where you'd stay (5k5-7k5) in the 100-200 acceleration if not short shifting. BTW, it's arguably not helpful short shifting on stock tune.

Yet CS seems to be a great leap in the 100-200 time mentioned, which probably is not true.
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I second this.

From dyno and also proved by datalog, there is little difference across base, cp and cs above 6k rpm where you'd stay (5k5-7k5) in the 100-200 acceleration if not short shifting. BTW, it's arguably not helpful short shifting on stock tune.

Yet CS seems to be a great leap in the 100-200 time mentioned, which probably is not true.
For my part, I have greater faith in the averaged acceleration results from the EU magazines that I posted than the dyno results in the OP since the former are based on multiple samples.
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CanAutM3 CS doesn't have a stronger top end, a proven fact that's hard for you to swallow I'd understand. In fact, top end across base/zcp/cs are identical. You can find many dyno overlay to show that and the datalog here is even more educative if you're familiar with these stuff.

What's only confusing is CS' much better magazine times reported, which probably is not true. Of course mag time is much more acknowledgeable "from your part" I take it LOL

Anyway, CS is already blistering fast stock, so is any S55 for a power source of compact sedan and sedan derived coupes.

OP made an excellent thread, more informative than all the stupid threads here in the past few years combined.
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