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I don't take lessons on track dynamics from people who clearly haven't driven the cars they are discussing. It's like taking advice from a blind person touching an elephant... Become a PCA instructor, be faster than I am with whatever you want to drive and then we can discuss opinions. Until then it's pure garbage
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the Glen isn't that far from you, the Canadian group goes down there at least once a year
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I've owned a FBO m4 ( 500 whp ) when it first came out ,with full coilovers ECT ECT ,moved on to a 981 cayman Gts ,991.2 Gts ,and now a 991.2 gt3. The f8x is a great car ,but a compromised car ,it does everything good ( not excellent) it's a jack of all trades, a good value. Wether you want to believe this or not ,when it comes to pure driving fun and/or track work the M can't hold a candle against any porsche sports car.
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Fact remains, it takes an IM or CM race prepped M3 to keep up with a bone stock 911 in competitor racing. If bmw was so great why did they just get utterly embarrassed by Porsche in WEC and are currently getting owned in IMSA as well? Fact is Porsche at their least capable is as capable of not more so than BMW at their most capable (ie 991.2S with summers faster than an m4 GTS on cup tires). |
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It's crazy that Chin and others haven't implemented a Porsche-specific run group for safety reasons at this point. It could slot in just above advanced, regardless of driver experience.
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I dont get the constant Porsche/BMW comparisons. Porsche is a low volume sports car company with an entry price point MUCH higher than BMW. I would certainly expect that a 911s would best whatever top of the line M3/4 was available. At the end of the day the M3/4 is just a souped up commuter car, albeit a fantastic one, whereas the 911 and cayman are bespoke sports cars which also generally cost tens of thousands of dollars more. Why would it be a surprise that the expensive sports car would outperform the less expensive family car?
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News flash: people on the forum are not pro drivers. So instead of making comparisons in Excel sheets and talking about mommies and daddies, perhaps they should focus on trying to drive their wonderful cars at a pace that E46s don't take them out. Having actually codriven in races with a pro driver, people are wasting their time talking about what a pro driver can and can't do. Can a pro driver drive a 991 GT3 faster than a F80? The answer is irrelevant, as no one here is a pro driver. Then you actually go to an AER race and a Cayman S is classed as a class '3' car, where even the neutered US-spec E36 runs.
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My older brother in Toronto will be easily convinced to take up free track time in his 981 Gt4. Where do we sign up?! On a similar note, there was a lot of talk on the model 3 thread about Guilia QV and F80 vs model3 and I wanted to organize a track day for some fun comparisons and no one wanted to do it. I think there’s more interest in bench racing than tracking |
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I’ve only been once to big track, and not gonna lie, there are some intimidating corners there (especially when driving a borrowed gt4) |
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The Guilia could be interesting, but you'd have to find one at the track in the first place. You almost have a better shot of finding a RS3/TTRS there... The Tesla thing is just dumb... even though I look forward to running into one it's like looking forward to running into a Focus RS... what is the point? Slow as hell. In years of doing this I've run into one RS4 that had an ok pace, then a friend's C63 Black which was also cool. In real life you only have Porsches and BMWs plus a pinch of Vettes |
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They're a lot more common out here than in your neck of the woods since I'm in Tesla country. |
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Electric cars are great for getting a divorce after you take your significant other from a standstill to 62 in under 3 seconds. They cannot expend large amounts of power sustainably, it is simply impossible, so my interest in them is zero until they can. And they will not be able to anytime in the mid term future
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Best review I've come across so far: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/pors...-drive-review/
I think the only content so far is coming from a single press event.
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