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09-25-2016, 01:56 PM | #46 |
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Maybe 19's make it more a DD?? How much more pronounced is cabin noise in the ZCP?? Placing my order within next 3 months & need to gather as much info. as possible.
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09-25-2016, 03:10 PM | #47 |
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Of course, there's a reason why I have an E92 and a F80. When it's just me, I drive the E92. If I have to haul around people or need extra room, I'll drive the F80. I switch back and forth between the two often and don't really get a feeling that I'd rather be driving one over the other. Just my 2 cents. |
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09-26-2016, 12:52 AM | #52 |
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same here locally with journos, so many mixed reviews especially with regard to suspension changes
one guy says it's harsher than c63, another says its more compliant the best way is to grab one for an extended test drive and form your own opinion - car journalism these days should be taken as entertainment only after my test drive i found the suspension more compliant over bumps than my c63s, and the gap grew the faster i went re changes, compared to the first gen i drove, the zcp has sorted everything that prevented me buying that car back then - ride quality, sound and traction Last edited by domino_z; 09-26-2016 at 06:05 AM.. |
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09-26-2016, 02:44 AM | #53 |
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say if you were to get a hex tune, akrapovic exhaust, intake and coilovers. would that mean the standard m3 and zcp is essentially the same car apart from the seats?
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09-26-2016, 07:43 AM | #54 | |
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From what a lot of us are finding out the stock zcp tune pairs great with jb4. I personally think something like bm3 will still be worth it even if you have zcp cause youll be able to fine tune a back end flash for even more power. But if I planned to do the mods you are I wouldnt check the box. |
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09-26-2016, 10:31 AM | #55 | |
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This same thing happened with e90 M3 with competition package. The heavier 19" wheels with less sidewall and heavier dynamic suspension made for no difference on the track to the lighter 18" fixed suspension M3s. Those big wheels are not for style not outright performance. If you have any doubt Google any sort of race car and you will see sidewalls. Not because F1 teams can't afford bigger wheels as so many here will undoubtedly think and say but because you need some compliance as suspensions get stiffer and the more power you have the more compliance you need to get it down. |
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09-26-2016, 01:46 PM | #56 |
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Not sure why people don't like Comp Pack, unless you really dont like the 20in wheels.
If you do like the wheels and you were going for optional 19s anyway, this package is a great bargain. If this was available when I got my car, no question I would have gotten it. |
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09-28-2016, 07:36 PM | #57 |
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Comp pack is great value for the money. It makes a noticeable difference in the car as well. I think the comp pack is great and the car is better for having it.
It doesn't suit every driver's needs. I would love the comp pack but in north jersey, it's hard with those wheels, I like the non zcp seats better as well. I just wish there were a la cart comp pack upgrades. I would do the tune and suspension in a heartbeat. Last edited by BavarianBeastTamer; 09-29-2016 at 11:13 AM.. |
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09-28-2016, 08:49 PM | #59 |
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I picked up my 17 M3 ZCP last Monday.. I had the 2016 M3 non ZCP put 6k miles on the car. I haven't even gone in for my first service and I already feel the difference all around with the ZCP. Cant wait till break in is done. Wish it was out from the beginning saved me the hassel of trade in. ZCP is a must IMO
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09-28-2016, 09:00 PM | #60 | |
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The fact that they don't understand that they are biased and try to come off as unbiased is hilarious. The best example of this is Matt Farah. He is SOOO biased you can tell what he will say when he gets into a car that isn't an American brand. The same can be said for Motor Trend when they did that Focus RS vs VW Golf R, I saw even before the video started they would pick the Focus RS and behold they do. Almost every automotive journalist is this way apart from Chris Harris. Chris is among one of the very few that I actually listen to because he doesn't tend to bullshit what he says. Motor Trend, Car and Driver and The Smoking Tire are among the worse offenders for passing something as a review, instead of saying it is their own personal opinion. I love my car even though it isn't a ZCP. I come to accept the flaws in cars instead of always being hyper OCD about everything. Car "reviewers" should start thinking differently.
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