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      08-23-2023, 01:51 PM   #1
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Lap timers with OBD2 integration for braking/throttle telemetry?

Was looking at the Garmin Catalyst as a highly recommended plug and play lap timer. Does it have the ability to collect and overlay throttle/braking data?

What other lap timers have this feature?
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      08-23-2023, 09:49 PM   #2
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Garmin doesn’t have it and you can’t get this data without tapping to the canbus.


https://youtu.be/BOLqHgEDxWk?si=9GJj2R_eku7qEs1A
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Garmin doesn’t have it and you can’t get this data without tapping to the canbus.


https://youtu.be/BOLqHgEDxWk?si=9GJj2R_eku7qEs1A
Got it, thanks. Seems like kind of a pain to do.
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Solo2 dl has all of this
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Not the brake pressure and throttle application.
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Not the brake pressure and throttle application.
the Solo2 DL has this. It's an important functionality
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Not the brake pressure and throttle application.
the Solo2 DL has this. It's an important functionality
Correct, when wired through the PT CAN bus, you do get this data—see this thread and then my post on how to wire it. Solo2 DL with a Smartycam is an amazingly simple way to get helpful data around your driving.
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Correct, when wired through the PT CAN bus, you do get this data—see this thread and then my post on how to wire it. Solo2 DL with a Smartycam is an amazingly simple way to get helpful data around your driving.
Yup, that's why I was mentioning the Solo2DL, not the Solo2.

Wiring the CANbus is pretty easy especially if you have instructions! The DL comes with a harness and you just some alligator clips to hook it up easily
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the Solo2 DL has this. It's an important functionality
Canbus yes - but not OBD2. Manufacturers are slowly waking up and making this data available via that protocol.
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You can also use Longitudinal G's as a substitute for throttle/brake application data points.

There is also the Apex unit, I have no direct experience, but have seen folks using it at the track as well.
https://apextrackcoach.com/product-features/
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i believe the paid version of Harrys Lap Timer along with a matching wireless OBD reader can read throttle and braking.

otherwise it's only the Solo 2 DL.
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It should also be noted that the Solo 2 DL on canbus can read the actual pressure of the brakes, ODB2 can only read if the brake pedal is pushed or not.
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It should also be noted that the Solo 2 DL on canbus can read the actual pressure of the brakes, ODB2 can only read if the brake pedal is pushed or not.
Do you know if it measures brake pedal travel or the actual pressure applied, eg when the pedal is fully depressed but the difference between 100lbs of pressure or 80lbs?
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Do you know if it measures brake pedal travel or the actual pressure applied, eg when the pedal is fully depressed but the difference between 100lbs of pressure or 80lbs?

Its the pressure applied to the front and rear axles and there is a "brake" data point that is a 0-7 rating. You can see the brake # and the pressure do not seem to correlate. I am an amateur and really just getting into AIM. EDIT: you can also see when ABS is kicking in, and since ABS actually makes you slow, slower than threshold you can work on your foot work as well.



AIM publishes documentation on their CAN data bus features.

https://aim-sportline.com/en/documen...onnections.htm
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