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      06-19-2019, 07:03 AM   #1
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Custom Forged 6061-T6 Monoblock Style M3/M4 wheels - feedback needed!

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As an update to our initial feedback requests, would like to update all on our progress and vision. Richland Forged wheels are being designed here in Iowa by a group of Aerospace engineers and draftsman, with enthusiast ties to BMW and bimmerpost. We have built a relationship with an ISO-9001:2015 certified manufacturer with over 15 years of experience and pedigree in the forged wheel industry, leveraging advanced techniques and equipment. All designs are tested for compliance with JWL/VIA, DOT-T, and SAE J2530 standards. Additionally, independent testing and qualification in coordination with U.S testing laboratories and real-world track performance is being established for internal quality conformance, redundancy, and assurance. Our wheels are finished with powder based coatings providing extra durability and resilience compared to that of traditional liquid based paints/clears. We are striving to produce high quality product as a very reasonable price point.

Our initial M3/M4 models and production designs have converged towards the stylings of a plus size 20” 437M variant and a race inspired GT4 that progresses the consumer based 763M towards that of the actual GT4 wheel used in BMWs motorsport factory racing program. Both 19” and 20” versions of the GT4 are being produced. The 20” GT4 model is estimated to be 2.0 lbs (conservatively) lighter than the 666M wheels issued with the competition pack, while simultaneously widening to 9.5”/10.5” to support wider tire applications. Additionally a forged version of the 469M wheel is being produced primarily in 21” staggered configuration for fitment to the E70/F15 X5, which culminates in a 35lb improvement over OEM 20” wheelset.

GT4 Finishes
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GT4 Specs:
19x9.5" ET26 or ET21
19x10.5" ET35 or ET30
20x9.5" ET26 or ET21
20x10.5" ET35 or ET30

437M Finishes
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437M Specs:
20x9.5" ET27 or ET22
20x10.5" ET36 or ET31
19" design if significant customer interest

We are currently offering pre-release discounts for customers interested in ordering as we continue to work towards product launch. We are actively working with current bimmerpost members for valuable feedback and pilot selection! Look for Richland Forged to become forum sponsor in coming weeks, as we hope to build a grass roots footprint focusing on providing additional options for individuals looking for enhanced factory aesthetics with improved performance characteristics.

If you are interested in pre-launch orders, please contact us at info@richlandforged.com

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In upcoming future Richland Forged is anticipating releasing custom BMW style wheel sets fabricated via forged 6061-T6 billet aluminum encompassing goals of uncompromising strength, rigidity, and superior light-weight performance which will greatly exceeds that of cast wheels available on market today. The initial launch is focused towards the e70/e71 and F15/F15 X5 fitments, but expansion to e92/e93/f80/f82 is being considered.

As part of the initial production selection, We are attempting to gauge the preferences of the M3/M4 community as to which BMW styles/sizes/finishes are desired among the community such to focus production, and seek direct feedback from you as members.
  • ISO-9001:2015 Certified Manufacturing Process
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  • Impact, Cornering Fatigue, Radial Fatigue Testing

The initial production has focused on a customized 469M staggered wheelset that is sought after in the X5/X6 community. A 21" version was never produced by BMW, but is now available in a forged wheel.

For reference, the unsprung weight reduction due to forging process has yielded the following improvements on the 469M wheels:

469M wheel weight comparisons:

Rear
  • 39 lbs - OEM 20"
  • 29.9 lbs - Custom Forged 21"
Front
  • 36.2 lbs - OEM 20"
  • 28 lbs - Custom Forged 21

Assuming convergence on a specific wheel styles, there will likely be a "pre-release" purchasing opportunity for members that will be less costly than after official launch.

Member preferences can be directed in this thread or via info@richlandforged.com
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id love to see some wider and lighter 437m
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I really want a set of the M4 GT4 wheels in 19" and 20". It's similar to the CS wheels but way more concave. I'd buy a set in a heartbeat.







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Wouldn't mind the M4 GT4 wheels in 19" square setup or the 763M 19" square setup with semi-aggressive offset (flush to fenders).
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I really want a set of the M4 GT4 wheels in 19" and 20". It's similar to the CS wheels but way more concave. I'd buy a set in a heartbeat.
this or 763Ms in 20” front and rear with more aggressive offsets for more concavity.
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I really want a set of the M4 GT4 wheels in 19" and 20". It's similar to the CS wheels but way more concave. I'd buy a set in a heartbeat.
this or 763Ms in 20” front and rear with more aggressive offsets for more concavity.
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happy to say that I am going to be trying a set of larger and likely lighter 437ms

wanted to run the specs by you guys as i am not an expert:

Front - PCD: 5x120, Bore: 72.56mm, Size: 20"x9.5", Offset +27mm
Rear - PCD: 5x120, Bore: 72.56mm, Size: 20"x10.5", Offset +36mm


they indicated:
The offset's were increased almost proportionally from the 666m wheel 8mm in front/ 10mm in rear. I believe most would run a 275/30/20 front, 295/30/20 tire on the said configuration
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happy to say that I am going to be trying a set of larger and likely lighter 437ms

wanted to run the specs by you guys as i am not an expert:

Front - PCD: 5x120, Bore: 72.56mm, Size: 20"x9.5", Offset +27mm
Rear - PCD: 5x120, Bore: 72.56mm, Size: 20"x10.5", Offset +36mm


they indicated:
The offset's were increased almost proportionally from the 666m wheel 8mm in front/ 10mm in rear. I believe most would run a 275/30/20 front, 295/30/20 tire on the said configuration
I think the front offset is way too conservative. For the best fitment and isn't too aggressive, it should be:

Front - 20"x9.5", Offset +21mm
Rear - 20"x10.5", Offset +35mm

Here's an example of what that would look like on a 19" wheel set up with a 265 and 305 tire.

After these photos, I added 5mm spacers all around and it still cleared with no rubbing. I do autox these wheels+tires with the spacers on.









With 5mm spacers.

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interesting, i was told they referenced this https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1002992

the pics with the +27 look fairly flush to me
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interesting, i was told they referenced this https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1002992

the pics with the +27 look fairly flush to me
If you're talking about this picture... that front ain't flushed even at stock height. Lower it a little and the wheel will tuck in even more.

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interesting, i was told they referenced this https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1002992

the pics with the +27 look fairly flush to me
At factory ride height (which is what you just linked us to) is going to appear more flush than if the vehicle was lowered. When lowered more negative camber so you've got more room to add in those extra 5mm's. 9.5" ET20-ET22 is spot on perfect up front. 11" ET37 on the rears is also spot on if you go with an 11".

Fitment isn't 100% identical between factory ride height and lowered despite what some think.
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If you're talking about this picture... that front ain't flushed.

i was, i guess our desired outcome is a bit different =) i am cool with that look I am sure they would work with someone to change the offset if desired. its going to be several weeks before I have a finished product but ill let you guys know how everything turns out.

i am currently stock ride height. With my lip on the front i barely make it onto my lifts. I owned slammed cars and just didnt want that this time around.
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Was contacted by this Richland place to try their 20" GT4 style wheel. Wouldn't tell me country of origin, and didn't introduce him/her self to me in the initial email. I really want a 19" square setup so I backed out. They seemed offended when I told them they needed to do better about introducing themselves and they came off as a scam.
They told me they needed to protect IP and manufacturing process. It's a forged wheel, get over it.
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Was contacted by this Richland place to try their 20" GT4 style wheel. Wouldn't tell me country of origin, and didn't introduce him/her self to me in the initial email. I really want a 19" square setup so I backed out. They seemed offended when I told them they needed to do better about introducing themselves and they came off as a scam.
They told me they needed to protect IP and manufacturing process. It's a forged wheel, get over it.
So let me chime in here. First off I am not affiliated with these guys, in fact I reached out to them as a result of this thread so my knowledge of the company is about the same as everyone else on here. I had a few email exchanges similar to yours and I actually asked "hey what is your name btw" so I here you there =). That being said I provided them with a deposit on July 5th. They told me it would be about 30 days to manufacture the wheels. I purchased a 20" set of 437m wheels that are ultimately wider (my real reason for the purchase vs the 20". I like the look of the 437ms, mine were a little beat up and I want to run 4s's anyways. The specs below are what i selected and as previously stated they were speced this way mostly due to the ind article i linked earlier.

Front - PCD: 5x120, Bore: 72.56mm, Size: 20"x9.5", Offset +27mm
Rear - PCD: 5x120, Bore: 72.56mm, Size: 20"x10.5", Offset +36mm

I received an email yesterday stating the rims were complete and they would like final payment. I asked to receive a picture of the wheels which i received today. The rims looked great and I sent payment. Shortly thereafter I received shipment confirmation and 4 fedex tracking numbers showing the items are being shipped from Iowa.

I really have no clue where they are made, but to get them created, finished to factory looking paint and to Iowa in less then 30 days id say there is a good chance they are not coming from over seas. Along those lines I am not so sure I would care if they were.

Once i receive them I plan on having them modesta coated and then posting a full review. I will let you guys how i make out then.

Unless they just shipped me 4 boxes with bricks in them I am atleast fairly comfortable saying its not a scam
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I know the style 666m wheels are not as popular but I'd love to see a concave version of those in 19's that'd fit over ccb's!
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I really have no clue where they are made, but to get them created, finished to factory looking paint and to Iowa in less then 30 days id say there is a good chance they are not coming from over seas. Along those lines I am not so sure I would care if they were.
Doesn't really matter where they're made since it's just a machinist with a lathe/4-axis machine (or similar) operating it, it's where the forgings are sourced from. That's what determines what kind of quality aluminum is being used. It's not enough to say it's T6-6061 aluminum, we should know where the forgings are sourced in order to determine the quality of them. Also the FEA analysis and how well the wheels were designed to ensure that you won't have any issues with cracking, but there's no ideal way for any customer to verify that before buying.

Seeing they were made in 30 days probably means they have forgings at their facility already in stock so you're probably right, they're not likely machined overseas, but that doesn't determine the quality. I could have a Michelin starred chef attempt to make the best meal he/she can, but if he's working with rat meat, how good is it really going to be? I'd rather have a wagyu beef handled by an ordinary chef as you're more than likely going to get a pretty good meal out of it.
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Just an update. The wheels arrived today, much faster than i was expecting. I am very pleased with what i received. I am going to try and get them modesta coated in the next week or so and then get tires mounted. ill post some pics once on the car. The 20"x 10.5 looks so big off of the car heh
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I think the front offset is way too conservative. For the best fitment and isn't too aggressive, it should be:

Front - 20"x9.5", Offset +21mm
Rear - 20"x10.5", Offset +35mm

Here's an example of what that would look like on a 19" wheel set up with a 265 and 305 tire.

After these photos, I added 5mm spacers all around and it still cleared with no rubbing. I do autox these wheels+tires with the spacers on.










With 5mm spacers.


That’s an interesting thread. Would be cool to see a deeper concave 19 inch 437 wheels that can run 305 in the rear.

Or - what are these wheels in the photos above? They are absolutely stunning
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Hey everyone,

Just wanted to follow up on my previous post, Richland reconnected with me and were able to clarify on this whole situation. The downlow (and I’ve gotten permission to post up on this) is that it’s basically a small group of Aerospace Engineers (of which the main guy is a BMW enthusiast) coming up with some OEM style plus-sized custom forged wheels and they are currently in the R&D phase. The wheels are indeed being manufactured overseas and coming out of a reputable CM (Contract Manufacturer) that produces wheels for other stateside companies. There is obviously a prototype set of 20” forged 437’s already in the hands of a pilot customer and soon there will be a proto set of 20” forged GT4 style wheels (that I may be testing). We have not committed anything to each other at this point but I have offered my assistance and Richland seems positive about letting me help out. If you have any interest in being part of the pilot pre-production program (which gets you a set of wheels at pre-release pricing) you should email them at richlandforged@gmail.com

Overall it’ll be a little while before actual production units are offered but if you’re looking for something that’s a plus size OE style forged wheel these are the guys you should be paying attention to. I also suggested offering more aggressive offsets for those of you who prefer to run something a bit wilder than the rest of us!
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Hey everyone,

Just wanted to follow up on my previous post, Richland reconnected with me and were able to clarify on this whole situation. The downlow (and I’ve gotten permission to post up on this) is that it’s basically a small group of Aerospace Engineers (of which the main guy is a BMW enthusiast) coming up with some OEM style plus-sized custom forged wheels and they are currently in the R&D phase. The wheels are indeed being manufactured overseas and coming out of a reputable CM (Contract Manufacturer) that produces wheels for other stateside companies. There is obviously a prototype set of 20” forged 437’s already in the hands of a pilot customer and soon there will be a proto set of 20” forged GT4 style wheels (that I may be testing). We have not committed anything to each other at this point but I have offered my assistance and Richland seems positive about letting me help out. If you have any interest in being part of the pilot pre-production program (which gets you a set of wheels at pre-release pricing) you should email them at richlandforged@gmail.com

Overall it’ll be a little while before actual production units are offered but if you’re looking for something that’s a plus size OE style forged wheel these are the guys you should be paying attention to. I also suggested offering more aggressive offsets for those of you who prefer to run something a bit wilder than the rest of us!
Exciting times to be living in.
I myself would love oem-style wheels that are wider and more aggressively offset.
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Or - what are these wheels in the photos above? They are absolutely stunning
Yokohama Advan GTs - The best alternative to the RAYS Nismo LMGT4 - my favorite wheel of all time that I can't get a custom BMW fitment for

They're close but not exact, and while very nice, not sure I'd trade my TE37s for them after already purchasing them. Would have gotten them instead if I knew about them earlier.
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