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12-06-2013, 10:16 AM | #1 | |
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2015 Mustang benchmarked against outgoing M3. Already trailing the upcoming M4?
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com So the 2015 Mustang was just revealed and it now comes with independent rear suspension, which should mean it will handle better than ever. Apparently, Ford benchmarked the M3 and the 911 when engineering the new Mustang (from Jalopnik): Quote:
So the question is if it will be a match for the F82 M4 coupe? It's benchmarked against the current E90/E92 M3, so will it already trail behind the new M3/M4 when those model hit the market next year? |
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12-06-2013, 10:18 AM | #2 |
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12-06-2013, 10:59 AM | #3 |
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Looks nice but it's no comparison to either of it's benchmarking cars, it's a fast car but not a sports car, muscle cars don't cut it unless you live on a drag strip.
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12-06-2013, 11:07 AM | #4 | |
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http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html The 2015 Mustang will have an IRS, more than 420 hp (power numbers not yet announced), and will weigh significantly less than the outgoing model, just like the M3. I'd say it's a very good comparison. Pat |
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12-06-2013, 11:13 AM | #5 |
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It definitely looks more European than American muscle car though. That is probably both a good and bad thing. Yes making it more sleek and refined makes it more attractive to the international market however, that goes against what a "muscle car" is supposed to be. Generally, muscle cars are big, bulky, and powerful.
Although performance figures for the Mustang and M3 are comparable, most people wouldn't normally cross shop these cars because they represent two different types of drivers, experiences, and niches.
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12-06-2013, 11:47 AM | #6 |
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So in short. Yes it will compete peformance wise as the older one wasn't too far off from the E9x M3.
Many people won't cross shop the two but that's mostly based on american muscle car vs german sports sedan. Put them on the track and I figure the M3 will be more capable, but dont expect the margin to be huge, at least not when considering the huge price premium. That has been the case ever since the new 5.0 was released though. People don't usually see them in the same class because of price and type of car but in reality the performance numbers place them pretty close. |
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12-06-2013, 12:23 PM | #7 |
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the first thing I said when I saw it was wow that looks very Euro. It is about time that ford took suggestions from the best.
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12-06-2013, 12:24 PM | #8 |
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One thing I LOVE about this new Stang, is that they have brought back the fastback style! I think this thing is a looker. The rear is going to take a little getting use to, but I fully plan on test driving this thing.
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the biggest disappointment, as always with American cars
is the second you sit inside cheapo plastic interior all around I have a friend at work who owns the GT500 rode with him a few times sounds nice, tons of power but feels like i'm sitting in a cheapo Ford focus on the inside in no way does it feel premium its a cheap car, with a strong engine
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12-06-2013, 12:26 PM | #11 | |
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I just had a newer Mustang v6 for a few days as a rental. Now granted it doesn't the IRS and is the outgoing model. But WOW did it feel lifeless and handle like a POS. I couldn't believe how bad it was compared to my e90. I was sliding all over the place without trying.
So even if it can keep up on the track, its just not in the same in my books. That being said, if you want raw power, great looks at a great price, its a hell of a value proposition. Quote:
Last edited by chicochico; 12-07-2013 at 12:06 AM.. Reason: My bad on the engine. I never paid any attention to the V6 as I would have gotten the GT or Boss had I liked it |
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The new M3/M4 will hand it to the competition. Again. They always do
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This new Mustang is hot! This should be interesting... Don't underestimate the American car brands look where Cadillac is with their new offerings. The new ATS has won a lot of accolades...
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The new M3/M4 looks droopy + sounds like an angry fart. If the new 3/4 series interior is any indication, the new Mustang is definitely the best among the two. Last edited by checkmate; 12-06-2013 at 12:39 PM.. |
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hell yeah, huge GT500 brakes, new independent suspension, big honkin' V8 with 420+ hp with a proper 6 speed manual at a sub $35k?! Better yet, a convertible for sub $40k?!
That'll be likely less than half the price of the upcoming M4 vert...Is it less than half the car?? We'll just have to see what the market participants have to say about that... Last edited by PawnStar; 12-06-2013 at 12:48 PM.. |
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They're definitely not bad cars, I think the current 5.0 GT is one of the most fun cars you can get for the money and the motor is just epic but it has some serious handling issues. It looks like Ford is very serious with this new car, though. I can't wait to try it out. |
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