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      10-22-2021, 01:02 AM   #12673
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BMW does snow stuff in Sweden? Like an adventure tour or something?
Every major German manufacturer offers snow stuff in Sweden or Finland.

https://www.bmw-drivingexperience.co...-weltweit.html

https://experience.porsche.com/de/ice/international

https://www.audi.de/de/brand/de/audi...xperience.html

https://mercedes-benz-driving-events...weden-austria/

McLaren too! https://cars.mclaren.com/en/experien...xperience-2022
They do M Town on ice lake in Norway too, well they did before corona.
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Been perusing adverts and found these gems

1. 2006 E60 M5 with 235k miles - who says these cars don't last long?

2. The seat of a 2014 F30 with 315k (!) miles - not too shabby…

3. E36 M3 3.2 in Boston Green over Modena -
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Been perusing adverts and found these gems

1. 2006 E60 M5 with 235k miles - who says these cars don't last long?

2. The seat of a 2014 F30 with 315k (!) miles - not too shabby…

3. E36 M3 3.2 in Boston Green over Modena -
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E60m5. Prob the best sounding ///M since the divisions existence.
There's a local guy who, from the sounds of it, straight piped his. It's the most aggressive and loud street car Iv'e ever heard...and in a good way.
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I would take the GT3 if and only if the ADM is reasonable and if your dealership is able to keep its promise (if you trust them).

While the 911 GTS is extremely good, we can compare it kind of like a M340i to a M3. Just... 911 cars are, you know... way above that lol.

I'll point out, I still really dislike the shifter in the regular 992. I... just don't like the dumb shifter thing. That alone is enough for me to aim for the GT3 lol
Maybe more like M3 to M3 CS. I just got on the list for a 992 GTS allocation at my local dealer. Odds are long for even for that from what my dealer is saying. They aren't doing ADM but requiring buyers to purchase a Porsche watch (5k)? I'll sell the watch to GrussGott if it happens.
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Maybe more like M3 to M3 CS. I just got on the list for a 992 GTS allocation at my local dealer. Odds are long for even for that from what my dealer is saying. They aren't doing ADM but requiring buyers to purchase a Porsche watch (5k)? I'll sell the watch to GrussGott if it happens.
Wait, what are you doing with the Cayman GTS 4.0?

I'd take that deal for the ADM or Porsche Watch I'd never wear lol
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I would love to know which dealer sells GT cars at MSRP. Sharing is caring. I would do a no-option or minimally optioned (..$172k MSRP) 6MT GT3 Touring in a heartbeat.
My family has purchased 3 Porsches from them and i have an existing 991.2 that I would trade in. I’m not just walking off the street. Again my chances of getting one are minor - my current status V070 so order submitted but no allocation.

If you have long standing relationship with dealer and buy there consistently- they will not charge you ADM.

Go on Rennlist, most ppl there that took delivery didn’t pay ADM because they are VIP clients. Sometimes it may be cheaper to pay $50k over haha.
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I would love to know which dealer sells GT cars at MSRP. Sharing is caring. I would do a no-option or minimally optioned (..$172k MSRP) 6MT GT3 Touring in a heartbeat.
My family has purchased 3 Porsches from them and i have an existing 991.2 that I would trade in. I'm not just walking off the street. Again my chances of getting one are minor - my current status V070 so order submitted but no allocation.

If you have long standing relationship with dealer and buy there consistently- they will not charge you ADM.
I wish that were always the case, but unfortunately it isn't. I know it's true for certain VIP clients, but prior history hasn't always shielded a buyer from ADM.
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I wish that were always the case, but unfortunately it isn't.
I disagree - just find honest dealer but you have to buy consistently there and pay for service.
My 2nd yr service is $1,395 with discount applied 🤣 Pure rape.
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I would love to know which dealer sells GT cars at MSRP. Sharing is caring. I would do a no-option or minimally optioned (..$172k MSRP) 6MT GT3 Touring in a heartbeat.
My family has purchased 3 Porsches from them and i have an existing 991.2 that I would trade in. I'm not just walking off the street. Again my chances of getting one are minor - my current status V070 so order submitted but no allocation.

If you have long standing relationship with dealer and buy there consistently- they will not charge you ADM.
I wish that were always the case, but unfortunately it isn't. I know it's true for certain VIP clients, but prior history hasn't always shielded a buyer from ADM.
It is a combination of things, especially right now.

If you go outside of CA, you can get MSRP pretty easily but my personal opinion is that, I like doing business with people I know. It makes my life easier, build connections and I get perks. Do I sometimes pay a bit more? Yeah but for convenience I prefer it this way. Within reason of course.

I don't buy things sight unseen. Hell no for 100k+ in something. That isn't how I am raised.
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I would love to know which dealer sells GT cars at MSRP. Sharing is caring. I would do a no-option or minimally optioned (..$172k MSRP) 6MT GT3 Touring in a heartbeat.
My family has purchased 3 Porsches from them and i have an existing 991.2 that I would trade in. I'm not just walking off the street. Again my chances of getting one are minor - my current status V070 so order submitted but no allocation.

If you have long standing relationship with dealer and buy there consistently- they will not charge you ADM.
I wish that were always the case, but unfortunately it isn't. I know it's true for certain VIP clients, but prior history hasn't always shielded a buyer from ADM.
It is a combination of things, especially right now.

If you go outside of CA, you can get MSRP pretty easily but my personal opinion is that, I like doing business with people I know. It makes my life easier, build connections and I get perks. Do I sometimes pay a bit more? Yeah but for convenience I prefer it this way. Within reason of course.

I don't buy things sight unseen. Hell no for 100k+ in something. That isn't how I am raised.
Yeah, I was referring mainly to California. I know people who've purchased multiple Porsches from the same dealership and were still charged ADM……albeit, less than what they'd charge others, but ADM nonetheless. Even minn19 is being asked to buy a $5k watch from his dealership.
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Yeah, I was referring mainly to California. I know people who've purchased multiple Porsches from the same dealership and were still charged ADM……albeit, less than what they'd charge others, but ADM nonetheless. Even minn19 is being asked to buy a $5k watch from his dealership.
Hey, at least he gets a watch.

We don't get jack lol.
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Wait, what are you doing with the Cayman GTS 4.0?

I'd take that deal for the ADM or Porsche Watch I'd never wear lol
Planning on keeping the CGTS 4.0

I’d like the last versions of each before they go hybrid etc. I’m pretty deep on the list so we’ll see if it happens.
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Wait, what are you doing with the Cayman GTS 4.0?

I'd take that deal for the ADM or Porsche Watch I'd never wear lol
Planning on keeping the CGTS 4.0

I'd like the last versions of each before they go hybrid etc. I'm pretty deep on the list so we'll see if it happens.
I'm rooting for you bro.
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Planning on keeping the CGTS 4.0

I’d like the last versions of each before they go hybrid etc. I’m pretty deep on the list so we’ll see if it happens.
I'll give you $50 for the watch!

In F8x news, I'm in a not major town in Oregon and have seen 3 today, all of them pimped out with doo-dads like this one:

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Planning on keeping the CGTS 4.0

I'd like the last versions of each before they go hybrid etc. I'm pretty deep on the list so we'll see if it happens.
I'll give you $50 for the watch!

In F8x news, I'm in a not major town in Oregon and have seen 3 today, all of them pimped out with doo-dads like this one:

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When the F8X finally fell into the hands of MS13 gangsters in my patrol area, I knew the F8X had struck it big.
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When the F8X finally fell into the hands of MS13 gangsters in my patrol area, I knew the F8X had struck it big.
wow, so this is like maybe a gang car?

Cause I also saw a bunch of fancy stuff parked by a hydroponics supply store.

That 911 turbo, though, was driven by a legit old dude with a hot wife at least 20 years younger than him.
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wow, so this is like maybe a gang car?

Cause I also saw a bunch of fancy stuff parked by a hydroponics supply store.

That 911 turbo, though, was driven by a legit old dude with a hot wife at least 20 years younger than him.
The life of a Turbo owner.
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When the F8X finally fell into the hands of MS13 gangsters in my patrol area, I knew the F8X had struck it big.
wow, so this is like maybe a gang car?

Cause I also saw a bunch of fancy stuff parked by a hydroponics supply store.

That 911 turbo, though, was driven by a legit old dude with a hot wife at least 20 years younger than him.
The life of a Turbo owner.
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They do M Town on ice lake in Norway too, well they did before corona.
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Ice is open for all more or less every year.

Porsche usually have some meets there too and other manufacturers.
I know Tesla had something there once or twice too.


Winter driving an M is a lot of fun in the right conditions.
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C'mon man, my wife is indeed hot, but she's only 10 years younger than me . And even at 50, I am still quite young at heart
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